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About LinkBacksВ этом законе надо было сделать хитрее: запретить не только рекламу гомосексуальных, но и гетеросексуальных отношений.
И тогда никто бы не сказал, что это "Law against Gays".
В этом законе надо было сделать хитрее: запретить не только рекламу гомосексуальных, но и гетеросексуальных отношений.
И тогда никто бы не сказал, что это "Law against Gays".
I would love more the law, which forbids to kill anyone, and I think you have it. Why not "enforce" it then?Originally Posted by Deborski
In case of employer-employee relationships, I doubt that the cause of the fire can be proved. Simply lazy gays will be hard to fire. It is eternal issue: in Russia, there are special laws to prevent unfair terminations in respect to women (they tend to suddenly make kids and can miss the work for years, retaining the position), but it is revealed that "fair" termination became also almost impossible.
"Невозможно передать смысл иностранной фразы, не разрушив при этом её первоначальную структуру."
Запрет рекламы гетеросексуальных отношений практически равносилен запрету брака между мужчиной и женщиной. А если учесть, что запрет на рекламу направлен в отношении несовершеннолетних, то считай, что сделай они это, то они бы запретили ребёнку жить в семье, как никак реклама
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If you've spotted any mistake in my English, please, correct it. I want to be aware of any mistakes to efficiently eliminate them before they become a habit.
Well, I tried to steer clear of this thread (I know I posted here first) for as long as I saw it rapidly growing. I didn't read the whole thread but as from what I see I can say that people just forgot what this thread was all about and started to advocate/deny gay rights. At risk to become unpopular I think I have to express my thoughts about all that.
First of all, the whole thread was not about gay rights but about why it's ridiculous to boycott Sochi Olympics because of the law. Well, I'm gonna tell you why:
If somebody here really thinks that gay athletes will be persecuted due to this law they need to guess again. Russian high officials are bound to give the police orders to look the other way when it comes to dealing with anything regarding Olympics. Russia is not interested in letting Olympics go astray from what they see perfect Olympic games. That's the matter of the country's image nonetheless! If you look at the history of how Russia held any impoprtant even it will just become obvious. We always try to organize the most lavish, perfect and astonishing events if they're to be international. This is the Russian thing, it's a part of our culture. (Well, the thing is that we don't always undoubtly pull this off but that's another thing to discuss.
Second of all, did somebody here actually examine the law? All it says is that it's prohibited to popularize the notion among juveniles that being a gay is utterly great, awesome and so much better than being dully straight. In other words it's illegal to tell juveniles that they should be gay or to incline them to be gay by any means. And it undoubtly doesn't prohibit anyone from being gay, also it doesn't prohibit anyone from telling an adult that to be gay is great, doesn't prohibit gay clubs as long as they host adults only, doesn't prohibit so called "pride parades" as long as no juveniles are involved and it doesn't prohibit any gay symbolics. Still more it doesn't prohibit a whole load of other gay activities but I think it's enough for now because you've most likely got the point already.
All what I wrote is based on what I concluded from the actual law text after I'd actully read it. But don't take my word for that, after having read the law text I also happened upon the interview of the initiator of the law, Elena Mizulina.
The interview is in Russian but this site is called Master Russian so I trust you can get at least the main point of the interview and you surely are welcome to ask me to clarify anything you dind't understand there.
Also, one more thing, I agree that this law is far from perfect so some amendments are surely to come, But what law was perfect in its first edition? Even so sacred American constitution had and I'm sure will have some amendments.
As far as I see it now this law is not against gays it's against turning our children into gays or somehow inclining them to become one. It definitely doesn't deprive gays of their normal life, that just impose some limits om their interactions with children. And if you ask me I'd say all persons, be they straight or gay, have some certain limits on how they're allowed to interact with children.
That's all what I had to say. I hope I didn't hurt or abuse anyone but this is my view on the law
I do not claim that my opinion is absolutely true.
If you've spotted any mistake in my English, please, correct it. I want to be aware of any mistakes to efficiently eliminate them before they become a habit.
Опять за рыбу гроши! Абсолютно невозможно сделать геем ребёнка, который не рождён геем. Нет такого! Нельзя предложить девочке влюбиться в девочку, если она не родилась геем. Хорошо помню имена мальчиков, в которых я была влюблена в детском садике (Миша Сухинин), в младших классах (Олег Леднёв). В старших классах ни в кого не была влюблена, потом в институте (Толя Серёдкин) и т.д. То же самое про мальчиков. Мой сын ребёнком отнёс все свои "сокровища" девочке из другого класса. Потом спрашивал, а что можно сделать, чтобы понравиться кому-то.
Так что этот закон - злонамеренная чушь. И последствия этого закона для детей-геев просто трагические.
Крис Кристи молодец!
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...,6276501.story
Не брака, а публичных обнималок, сосалок, лежалок и т.д.
Кстати, порнография сразу получила бы удар. А то сейчас она не подсудна.
Да. Они не смогут размахивать причандалами на фестивале себе подобных. Такая трагедия...
cool link provided, thanks
Well, you are actually wrong
There is no proven fact that it is impossible, as well as there is no proven fact that people born as gays
Simon LeVay - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"На колу висит мочало, начинаем всё сначала".
Ну и тем более, значит закон ни на что не повлияет!Нет такого!
Но бережёного бог бережёт
"Невозможно передать смысл иностранной фразы, не разрушив при этом её первоначальную структуру."
если все время говорить неправду, это не сделает ее правдой
если есть доказательства - попрошу в студию
иначе это просто полемика с попыткой подгона под результат
Очень сильно может повлиять на детей-геев. Эти дети часто своих родителей боятся. И часто, если родители отсталые и трусливые, они от своих детей-геев отказываются. А Бог далеко.Ну и тем более, значит закон ни на что не повлияет!
Но бережёного бог бережёт
Did you even read my post? Or better say did you try to understand what I wrote? The law doesn't say that it's possible to make someone gay nor does it say that it's impossible. That just states that telling a juvenile to become gay is illegal. Can you ever try to abstract from your personal feelings when judging something or trying to prove something? As I said I wrote that text at my own risk to become hated and unpopular by who advocate gay rights here. So it seems that risk has come to pass. I'm so dissapointed. But please, take a look at my post again. Did I state there that I dissaprove/approve of gays? Well, it seems I didn't. What a pity.
Another time you're trying to strike personally and all you're based on is just your subjective believes. Can you provide any proof that it's 100% impossible to influence someone so that they somehow become gay? Or better yet do you have any proof that homosexuality is something you're born with? Oops, it seems you don't. And I tell you why. There is no such kinds of prooves yet. There might be but not now. And don't you try to tell me that all gays claim they were born gay. It's yet their own subjective opinions they might be sure of that but they might be deluded. Don't you think?
So without those kinds of prooves your statement is nothing but your personal opinion, which may or may not be true. So it doesn't give you any right to claim anything there
And for another time I see that you didn't really try to read into my post. Because the main statement there was under "first of all" and was about why it's ridiculous to boycott Sochi Olympics. It is not the thought that was conveyed with the most number of words, which is why you possibly didn't count it as the most important one, but it was definitely the gist of my post.
Please, don't let your personal judgement cloud your thinking. You're much better than that.
And I'm going out of here before people tear me apart for nothing. Good day
I do not claim that my opinion is absolutely true.
If you've spotted any mistake in my English, please, correct it. I want to be aware of any mistakes to efficiently eliminate them before they become a habit.
А погуглить?
я погуглил и привел научное исследование как факт, что вы говорите неправду
можно найти кучу популизма и очень небольшое количество фактов
я так понимаю что посыл погуглить означает что фактов у вас нет
3 Ways to Know if You Are Gay - wikiHow
"Understand a bit about what science says about being gay. Studies seem to support a strong genetic component in sexual orientation. A hot area of research currently is in epigenetics, or the study of how non-genetic factors influence the expression of genes. Geneticists hypothesize that homosexuality is linked to "epi-marks," or extra layers of information that determine how genes are expressed.[4] Normally, epi-marks are deleted when genes get passed from parents to children. With homosexuals, scientists believe that epi-marks are not deleted, and instead passed on from either father to daughter or from mother to son.[4]
- Scientists also think that having several older brothers increases the likelihood of a man being gay.[5] A male born to into a household of several older brothers is about 2% more likely to be gay, according to researchers at Brock University in St. Catharines, Canada.[5]
- Scientists strongly doubt that environment plays a role in a person's sexuality.[6][7][8] They believe that a person does not have a choice about whether they are gay, and that — on top of this — gay people do not usually become straight through self-dedication or coercion. Scientists have even determined that there may be an evolutionary benefit to being gay, called the "balancing selection hypothesis."[9]"
- Sources and Citations
- ↑ Cage fighter: "Sex with men doesn’t make you gay or bisexual, just like a cigarette doesn’t make you a smoker" | San Diego Gay and Lesbian News
- ↑ The 5 Stages Every Lesbian Goes Through
- ↑ Julie Bindel: Sexual desire is a social construct | World news | The Guardian
- ↑ 4.0 4.1 Scientists May Have Finally Unlocked Puzzle of Why People Are Gay - US News and World Report
- ↑ 5.0 5.1 Men with older brothers more likely to be gay - Health - Health care - More health news | NBC News
- ↑ Is Your Child Gay?: Scientific American
- ↑ US researchers find evidence that homosexuality linked to genetics | World news | theguardian.com
- ↑ Evolution Of Homosexuality Epigenetics - Business Insider
- ↑ Male Homosexuality Study: Gay Men Have Evolutionary Benefit For Their Families, New Research Suggests
- ↑ I'm From Driftwood - Daily gay, true stories
- ↑ Coming Out Stories
Но Америка близко. Прилетят и расфигачат нас, чтобы мы хорошо себя вели и не обижали сироток.
Скучно мне во всё это вникать, но одно место привлекло моё внимание: "...my findings are not to be believed because I am gay." Смешно!
очень жаль что вас привлекают только смешные места и не привлекают факты
я почитал вашу ссылку, она лишь подтверждает мои слова: доказательств нет, а пока нет доказательств утверждать что люди рождаются геями - это давать заведомо ложную информацию. И как бы она не казалась социально-корректной, это все равно ложь
That is what I hinted her at. But this sadly seems to have gone ignored
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If you've spotted any mistake in my English, please, correct it. I want to be aware of any mistakes to efficiently eliminate them before they become a habit.
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