Thread: MR.com manga reading project

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旅行ですか？いいなあ！

Originally Posted by laxxy

Originally Posted by MOG

Originally Posted by laxxy

3.1. ちよ:先生が飼うんじゃないんですか?
учитель не держит животных?(My attempt: Вы не держите ее?)

"Вы не держите ее?" wouldn't work here, it means "are you holding her?" (e.g. in your hands, right now). "держать" can mean "to keep an animal", but imo it should be used with the animal explicitly specified ("она держит кошку", can mean either "she is holding a cat" or "she keeps a cat at home as a pet". A more common usage would be "она держит кошек", if she has more than one, if she has only one cat I'd just say "у нее есть кошка"). For some reason it doesn't sound right with a pronoun. Thinking about it, it is most likely so because it is typically used when speaking of keeping pets (cats, dogs, ...) in general, but usually not when referring to a specific animal.

If the sentence in the comic means "Can you take her?", a correct translation could be "Вы её [себе] не возьмёте?", for example.

Thanks! It helps me a lot!!

これから、「単語」と書きます。
PS.「彙」は変な漢字ですね。^_^

You do not have to change, it's your choice I just wanted to write what I'm used to.

I don't know 彙 used in other pair of kanji

Originally Posted by laxxy

2.3. 春日:　ねとるー
I don't know... maybe,
Ну так возьмите его себе

It's 寝てるー

Originally Posted by laxxy

どこへ行くのか？

It sounds rough and nobody would actually say so today.
どこへ行くのですか？
どこへ行くの？　are better variation.

Thanks for the help!

Originally Posted by MOG

Originally Posted by laxxy

どこへ行くのか？

It sounds rough and nobody would actually say so today.
どこへ行くのですか？
どこへ行くの？　are better variation.

Oops Thanks!

p.54

1.1. 榊：　まるい...

2.1. 榊：　まる...　まる......
2.2. 榊：　そうだ　この子の名前はマルコにしよう
2.a. 命名　マルコ　勝手に　飼いもしないのに

3.1. 榊：　「...マルコといえば「母をたずねて三千里」　この子も母をさがして旅するんだろうか ...」
3.2. 榊：　「...きっと悲しいっぱいあるんだ...」

5.1. 榊：　がんばれマルコーー
5.a. 女子：　タマーー　おきるー　タマー

6.1. ちよ：　あ！　クラスで飼うってのはどーでしょー!?
6.2. ゆかり(?)：　クラスで？

7.1. ちよ：　はい！　日直の人がエサあげたりーー　なんあら私がしいく係になってもいいです！
7.2. ゆかり：　だめだめ　金魚じゃないんだから

p.54

1.1. 榊：　まるい...
Круглая...
2.1. 榊：　まる...　まる......
Мару... мару...
2.2. 榊：　そうだ　この子の名前はマルコにしよう
Да! назовем ее Маруко
2.a. 命名　マルコ　勝手に　飼いもしないのに
Имя: Маруко (???) I don't understand the 2nd part.
3.1. 榊：　「...マルコといえば　「母をたずねて三千里」　この子も母をさがして旅するんだろう か...」
Наверное, она путешествует и ищет свою маму...
Apparently a reference to this:
http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?s ... e&aid=1383

3.2. 榊：　「...きっと悲しい事やつらい事がいっぱいあるんだ...」
Такая грустная, трогательная ситуация...
（いっぱい＝一敗　？？）

5.1. 榊：　がんばれマルコーー
Удачи, Маруко!

5.a. 女子：　タマーー　おきるー　タマー
??? Просыпается! ???-

6.1. ちよ：　あ！　クラスで飼うってのはどーでしょー!?
О! А может, мы ее будем держать в классе?

6.2. ゆかり(?)：　クラスで？
В классе?

7.1. ちよ：　はい！　日直の人がエサあげたりーー　なんなら私がしいく係になってもいいです！
Да! Дежурные будут ее кормить. Я буду ответственной за ее содержание.

7.2. ゆかり：　だめだめ　金魚じゃないんだから
Нет, нет. Это же не рыбка.

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単語
命名 【めいめい】 (n,vs) naming, christening, (P)
勝手に 【かってに】 (adv) arbitrarily, of it's own accord, involuntarily, wilfully, willfully, as one pleases
飼育 【しいく】 (n,vs) breeding, raising, rearing, (P)
係 【かかり】 (n) official, duty, person in charge, (P)

Originally Posted by laxxy

2.a. 命名　マルコ　勝手に　飼いもしないのに
Имя: Маруко (???) I don't understand the 2nd part.

She named it on her own though she's not going to raise.

3.2. 榊：　「...きっと悲しい事やつらい事がいっぱいあるんだ...」
Такая грустная, трогательная ситуация...
（いっぱい＝一敗　？？）

一杯（many）

5.a. 智：　タマーー　おきろー　タマー
??? Просыпайтся! ???-

タマ was the most popular name for a cat, if you don't know it's name, it's normal to call it tama

6.2. ゆかり(?)(yeah, I think she's Yukari)：　クラスで？
В классе?

7.1. ちよ：　はい！　日直の人がエサあげたりーー　なんなら私がしいく係になってもいいです！
Да! Дежурные будут ее кормить. Я буду ответственной за ее содержание.

なんなら　＝　если нужно
А это не нужно наверное?

どうもありがとうございます!!

Originally Posted by MOG

Originally Posted by laxxy

2.a. 命名　マルコ　勝手に　飼いもしないのに
Имя: Маруко (???) I don't understand the 2nd part.

She named it on her own though she's not going to raise.

I looked through some examples of 勝手に but I am still a bit confused... Is this an incomplete sentence? Or does 勝手に refer to 　飼いもしないのに ? (as in 'she won't raise it on her own' or smth like that)?

[quote:seemw5s8]3.2. 榊：　「...きっと悲しい事やつらい事がいっぱいあるんだ...」
Такая грустная, трогательная ситуация...
（いっぱい＝一敗　？？）

一杯（many）[/quote:seemw5s8]
So, is it like "Definitely, a lot of sad and painful things are happening" (to this cat? Or in general?)

[quote:seemw5s8]
5.a. 智：　タマーー　おきろー　タマー
??? Просыпайтся! ???-

タマ was the most popular name for a cat, if you don't know it's name, it's normal to call it tama [/quote:seemw5s8]

[quote:seemw5s8]
7.1. ちよ：　はい！　日直の人がエサあげたりーー　なんなら私がしいく係になってもいいです！
Да! Дежурные будут ее кормить. Я буду ответственной за ее содержание.

なんなら　＝　если нужно
А это не нужно наверное? [/quote:seemw5s8]
Да, конечно, "если нужно"...

Originally Posted by laxxy

どうもありがとうございます!!

Originally Posted by MOG

Originally Posted by laxxy

2.a. 命名　マルコ　勝手に　飼いもしないのに
Имя: Маруко (???) I don't understand the 2nd part.

She named it on her own though she's not going to raise.

I looked through some examples of 勝手に but I am still a bit confused... Is this an incomplete sentence? Or does 勝手に refer to 　飼いもしないのに ? (as in 'she won't raise it on her own' or smth like that)?

いいえ、どういたしまして。

榊は　勝手に　命名　（しやがった ）
自分は飼いもしないのに

[quote:11fiodiq][quote:11fiodiq]3.2. 榊：　「...きっと悲しい事やつらい事がいっぱいあるんだ...」
Такая грустная, трогательная ситуация...
（いっぱい＝一敗　？？）

一杯（many）[/quote:11fiodiq]
So, is it like "Definitely, a lot of sad and painful things are happening" (to this cat? Or in general?)[/quote:11fiodiq]
Of couse to this cat. "There must be a lot of sad things and hardships".

Originally Posted by MOG

Originally Posted by laxxy

どうもありがとうございます!!

Originally Posted by MOG

Originally Posted by laxxy

2.a. 命名　マルコ　勝手に　飼いもしないのに
Имя: Маруко (???) I don't understand the 2nd part.

She named it on her own though she's not going to raise.

I looked through some examples of 勝手に but I am still a bit confused... Is this an incomplete sentence? Or does 勝手に refer to 　飼いもしないのに ? (as in 'she won't raise it on her own' or smth like that)?

いいえ、どういたしまして。

榊は　勝手に　命名　（しやがった ）
自分は飼いもしないのに

ええ、分かりました。　コミックの中でちょっと違って見えますから、初めは分からなく成りまし た。

Originally Posted by laxxy

コミックの中ではちょっと違って見えますから、初めは分かりませんでした。

分からなくなりました means that you get confused after something, so it does not sound natural here

Originally Posted by MOG

Originally Posted by laxxy

コミックの中ではちょっと違って見えますから、初めは分かりませんでした。

分からなくなりました means that you get confused after something, so it does not sound natural here

Well, one can say that I was confused after looking at the picture, I think I am missing the difference here

p.55
1.1. 春日：　あ
А!
2.1. 春日：　ご飼うにみそ汁かけたのんって　「ねこまんま」　ゆーやろ？　なんでやろー？
Ugh.... maybe:
Вот суп мисо, которым иногда кормят животных (ご飼うに???), почему он называется "некоманма"?

2.2. ちよ：　昔ネコによくあげてたんじゃないですか？
В древности им часто кормили кошек, не так ли?

2.3. よみ：　っつーかあんたいきなり話変えるなよ
Неожиданная какая-то тема всплыла у вас

3.1. ゆかり：　あーもう！誰も飼わないの!?
Ну ладно! Никто его себе не берет?!
3.2. ゆかり：　あんたら勝手よ！　どうするつもり!?　ハラたつー！
Как хотите! or maybe "you are too selfish"?
Что делать будем?
???

4.1. 智：　よしわかった！　ゆかりちゃん！わたしまかせろ!!
Есть, поняла! Юкари-чан! Положитесь на меня!
4.2. 春日：　お!?
О?!
4.a. ゆかり：　「...だれがゆかりちゃんか...」
Кого это она "Юкари-чан" называет...

5.1. 智：　実はうち保健近所いんだ
??????
5.2. よみ：　だめじゃん
Нет, не получится

6.1. ちよ：　そ　そんな...　あ　あう...
Э... это же...
6.2. 智：　あー 冗談!　アメリカンジョックだよーー！
Шутка, шутка! Американская шутка!
6.3. ちよ：　アメリカン?
Американская?

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Она ее что, для опытов собралась куда-то сдать? No idea what's 保健近所.

Originally Posted by laxxy

p.55
1.1. 春日：　あ
А!
2.1. 春日：　ご飯にみそ汁かけたのんって　「ねこまんま」　ゆーやろ？　なんでやろー？

3.2. ゆかり：　あんたら勝手よ！　どうするつもり!?　ハラたつー！
Как хотите! or maybe "you are too selfish"?
Что делать будем?
???

"You all are too selfish! What are you going to do with it!? You drive me mad!"

4.a. ゆかり：　「...だれがゆかりちゃんか...」
Кого это она "Юкари-чан" называет...

I'm not sure but I think this is 「誰がゆかりちゃんや」, for it is written in the way that the left "leg" of the letter is only a bit longer than the left one, as opposed to が in だれが. I don't think the meaning would change if the letter is か or や, but I'd not say か here. If it is や, it is 関西弁 and it means same as 「だれがゆかりちゃんだ」

5.1. 智：　実はうち保健近所いんだ
??????

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Она ее что, для опытов собралась куда-то сдать? No idea what's 保健近所.

保健所　近いんだ

Спасибо большое!!

Originally Posted by MOG

Originally Posted by laxxy

p.55
1.1. 春日：　あ
А!
2.1. 春日：　ご飯にみそ汁かけたのんって　「ねこまんま」　ゆーやろ？　なんでやろー？

Gotcha. So is it "Miso soup with rice"?

[quote:ciddxa1y]4.a. ゆかり：　「...だれがゆかりちゃんか...」
Кого это она "Юкари-чан" называет...

I'm not sure but I think this is 「誰がゆかりちゃんや」, for it is written in the way that the left "leg" of the letter is only a bit longer than the left one, as opposed to が in だれが. I don't think the meaning would change if the letter is か or や, but I'd not say か here. If it is や, it is 関西弁 and it means same as 「だれがゆかりちゃんだ」[/quote:ciddxa1y]
I see. It seems my translation still works though, or do you think otherwise?

[quote:ciddxa1y]5.1. 智：　実はうち保健近所いんだ
??????

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Она ее что, для опытов собралась куда-то сдать? No idea what's 保健近所.

保健所　近いんだ [/quote:ciddxa1y]
То есть, таки для опытов?

Originally Posted by laxxy

Originally Posted by MOG

Originally Posted by laxxy

p.55
1.1. 春日：　あ
А!
2.1. 春日：　ご飯にみそ汁かけたのんって　「ねこまんま」　ゆーやろ？　なんでやろー？

Gotcha. So is it "Miso soup with rice"?

Yes, and ねこまんま is used for not only miso soup with rice, but also there are rice with dried bonito.
ねこまんま(wikipedia)

[quote:1sdhpmbf]
[quote:1sdhpmbf]4.a. ゆかり：　「...だれがゆかりちゃんか...」
Кого это она "Юкари-чан" называет...

I'm not sure but I think this is 「誰がゆかりちゃんや」, for it is written in the way that the left "leg" of the letter is only a bit longer than the left one, as opposed to が in だれが. I don't think the meaning would change if the letter is か or や, but I'd not say か here. If it is や, it is 関西弁 and it means same as 「だれがゆかりちゃんだ」[/quote:1sdhpmbf]
I see. It seems my translation still works though, or do you think otherwise?[/quote:1sdhpmbf]
I don't know. I see your translation is literal, but I have no idea if it really carries the idea: Tomo called Yukari-chan but it is quite unusual and rude for a student to call a teacher with "chan". So it is like "remember your place". The sentence could be rephrased like "誰に向かって言っとんねん(関西弁)" or "誰に向かって言っているんだ(標準語)"

[quote:1sdhpmbf][quote:1sdhpmbf]5.1. 智：　実はうち保健近所いんだ
??????

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Она ее что, для опытов собралась куда-то сдать? No idea what's 保健近所.

保健所　近いんだ [/quote:1sdhpmbf]
То есть, таки для опытов? [/quote:1sdhpmbf]
В санитарном управлении есть роль, как распоряжение ненужных любимых животных.

休日は終わり、続きましょう。

p.56

1.1. 猫:　にあー
Мяу!
1.2. よみ:　あ
А...

3.1. 智:　あーー起きた！
Ааа! Проснулся!
3.2. 春日:　うわーむっちゃかわいーー
Ой!! Какой симпатичный!! (むっちゃ не понял )
3.3. ちよ:　だっこするーー
Давайте я его подержу! (would sound unnatural w/o "давайте" or smth like that here, imo)
3.a. 榊, SFX:　フラッ
(дрожит она, чтоли? Не знаю как передать...)

(4: borderless frame)

5.1. ちよ:　かわいいですねぇーー
Какой он симпатичный!!!
5.2. 智:　私も抱くーー　なくなよ
И я подержу! Не плачь! (泣くな？)

5.3. 春日:　私もー
И я тоже...

6.1. ちよ(?):　？私ねー
I can't read the first kanji here
6.a. 榊:　それ　それ　あの私
Тут, тут... Это... И я...

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単語:
抱っこ 【だっこ】 (n,vs) (child's) hug, carrying a baby in one's arms, (P)
抱く 【いだく】 (v5k) (1) to embrace, to hold in the arms, e.g. a baby, to hug, (2) to harbour e.g. grudge, to harbor, to harbour, to entertain e.g. suspicion, (P)

Originally Posted by MOG

Yes, and ねこまんま is used for not only miso soup with rice, but also there are rice with dried bonito.
ねこまんま(wikipedia)

Thanks!

Originally Posted by MOG

[quote:172sxvog][quote:172sxvog]4.a. ゆかり：　「...だれがゆかりちゃんか...」
Кого это она "Юкари-чан" называет...

I'm not sure but I think this is 「誰がゆかりちゃんや」, for it is written in the way that the left "leg" of the letter is only a bit longer than the left one, as opposed to が in だれが. I don't think the meaning would change if the letter is か or や, but I'd not say か here. If it is や, it is 関西弁 and it means same as 「だれがゆかりちゃんだ」

I see. It seems my translation still works though, or do you think otherwise?[/quote:172sxvog]
I don't know. I see your translation is literal, but I have no idea if it really carries the idea: Tomo called Yukari-chan but it is quite unusual and rude for a student to call a teacher with "chan". So it is like "remember your place". The sentence could be rephrased like "誰に向かって言っとんねん(関西弁)" or "誰に向かって言っているんだ(標準語)"[/quote:172sxvog]
Thanks. The Russian phrase carries the same meaning here. It's a common way to express that you are unhappy with being addressed in a particular way (eg. "Кого это ты козлом назвал?", ... )