Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
Это было связано с тем, что ФРГ была богаче, целенаправленно проводила политику по переманиванию гдровцев, пропаганда тоже играла здесь роль. Немцы считали ФРГ Германией, а ГДР оккупированной территорией, хотя ФРГ была такая же оккупированная, как и ГДР.
I think you're putting too much emphasis on the propaganda. Propaganda is a lot, but not everything. Mostly, people would trust their own experience, not the way it was explained by somebody else.

Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
Не знаю, но факт предательства очевиден.
Well, you said you had been thinking a lot about it and reached the inevitable conclusion Gorbachev was a traitor. Would you be kind enough to spare just a tidbit of that titanic work to a simple-minded crocodile like myself? You see, I can't think that much, my mind was totally washed out by the Hollywood movies. You need to be patient with me.

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Наверное, он надеялся войти в мировое правительство.
Alright, so as of 1992 his job was complete. Is he a part of the World Government now? To say it in a simpler way, what kind of assurance had he have to abandon what he had in his hands for something as elusive (to say the least) as a chair in the World Government? He didn't need a chair, he was the chairman. He was the boss of almost the half of this world. What could just a chair in the World Government offer to such person?

Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
Я сказал, что пропаганда была неэффективной, а не то, что ее было мало.
And I pointed out that the soviet propaganda was abundant and the western propaganda was next to unknown to the soviet people.
The Soviet propaganda worked another way because there was NOTHING connecting it with the reality. People lived in a certain way and the propaganda said completely different things. And people saw that and made their own conclusions. They saw in their own eyes what Party had constituted of, what kind of people joined the party and why. And how disconnected that was from what the Party had said. That's why the Soviet propaganda worked the other way.