Thread: Valda - разные вопросы по глаголам

You can say

"нам нужно" which means "we need"

And you can say

"мы нуждаемся" which means "we need"

What's the difference?

мы нуждаемся - urgent need, something you can't work or live without, often when something can't function without it.

Мы нуждаемся в воздухе (We need air to live, to breathe, or We must have air)... Нам просто нужен воздух (We just need air)

the difference the same as between Hebrew zarich and zakuk or if extrapolate their grammatical difference to Hebrew, then as between zrichim and nizkakim/mizdakekim

mind that нуждаться is governed by preposition 'в + Prepositional case' just like in Hebrew lehizdakek be-

in English нуждаться - to be in need of; to be in want of

мы нуждаемся - urgent need, something you can't work or live without, often when something can't function without it.

Мы нуждаемся в воздухе (We need air to live, to breathe, or We must have air)... Нам просто нужен воздух (We just need air)

Ahh I see

Originally Posted by LXNDR

the difference the same as between Hebrew zarich and zakuk or if extrapolate their grammatical difference to Hebrew, then as between zrichim and nizkakim/mizdakekim

mind that нуждаться is governed by preposition 'в + Prepositional case' just like in Hebrew lehizdakek be-

in English нуждаться - to be in need of; to be in want of

Oh, so if I wanna say "we need food" (urgent) it would be "мы нуждаемся в пище" [<-prepostional] ?

Nice Hebrew example, btw touche!

Originally Posted by Valda

Oh, so if I wanna say "we need food" (urgent) it would be "мы нуждаемся в пище" [<-prepostional] ?

that's exactly right

a sidenote: many Russian speakers learning Hebrew have trouble remembering that мне нужно is not zarich li, but ani zarich, because in Hebrew zarich is related to the subject, whereas in Russian нужно is related to the object

Originally Posted by Valda

Oh, so if I wanna say "we need food" (urgent) it would be "мы нуждаемся в пище" [<-prepostional] ?

No! This is wrong. нуждаемся meand physical need but not necessary urgent. Черепаха нуждается в специально приготовленной пище - A turtle needs a specially-prepared food for life (may be abstract turtle or when there is plenty of special food).
One can нуждаться in food, air, money, fuel, raw materials, political stability, love, anything that is needed for normal functioning or living.

On the other hand "нам нужно" may express any desire.
Нам нужно выйграть этот матч, чтобы попасть в финал - We need(have to) win this match to enter the final.
Нам нужно держаться ближе друг к другу чтобы избежать опасности - We have to stick closer to each other for safety.

Что вам нужно? - What do you want? (in general) (far example, we want justice, we want the bad minister removed, we want to take control)
В чем вы нуждаетесь? - What do you want for yourself? What are you missing for good life of yourself? (we need money, we need nails, we need fuel)

In all cases нужно can be used instead of нуждаться, but not other way around.

Thanks LX

Even if Russian they must be really beginners if they say "zarich li", heh. Amusingly my Russian department head professor for robotics in my college still make hilarious Hebrew mistakes. I even post them on my facebook if it's in writing :P

Originally Posted by Valda

Amusingly my Russian department head professor for robotics in my college still make hilarious Hebrew mistakes.

?חָתוּל מַדעָן

Hard for me to figure out the article :/ Even with google translate. It's too long to start analyzing words and too pun/language-based to use google translate.

Originally Posted by Valda

"мы нуждаемся"

If we say "мы нуждаемся" without object (NOT "мы нуждаемся в чём-либо") - thats mean, that we are poor.