Thread: Sochi Olympics and the Law against Gays in Russia +

Originally Posted by Deborski

And now who is allowing personal feelings to get in the way? Come on, Igor, I didn't even accuse you of any of those things. I just thought it was unfair how you (and Doomer) ganged up on Lampada and made statements about her not understanding. So, is it ok for you two to "back each other up" but not ok for me to back up Lampada?

I'm trying to use facts, you trying to use social studies which are not facts
And all I'm saying that there is NO PROOF for either of theories. But you saying: "oh, well, there is no proof, so we make up our own conclusion and that's gonna be the truth". I mean that is exactly what the Church was trying to do to you when you were younger and sadly this is what you are doing now. You supporting your believes with fakes to make yourself feel better.

Originally Posted by Doomer

I'm trying to use facts, you trying to use social studies which are not facts
And all I'm saying that there is NO PROOF for either of theories. But you saying: "oh, well, there is no proof, so we make up our own conclusion and that's gonna be the truth". I mean that is exactly what the Church was trying to do to you when you were younger and sadly this is what you are doing now. You supporting your believes with fakes to make yourself feel better.

And now you are getting personal and making implications about my level of intelligence/understanding, etc. Sorry, but I am not going to get into this with you. I did not reference "social studies" - I am referencing psychological studies and scientific studies. Whereas, you are just voicing your opinion. You will choose what to believe in, I guess. But as long as you are going after me with veiled insults, I am not going to respond to you further.

Originally Posted by Deborski

And now you are getting personal and making implications about my level of intelligence/understanding, etc. Sorry, but I am not going to get into this with you. I did not reference "social studies" - I am referencing psychological studies and scientific studies. Whereas, you are just voicing your opinion. You will choose what to believe in, I guess. But as long as you are going after me with veiled insults, I am not going to respond to you further.

Could you please point me to the article that confirms that being gay is a genetic disorder, because that's what you said earlier

Originally Posted by Deborski

It's actually in their DNA.

psychological studies cannot confirm the medical fact of genetic disorder because psychological studies can only be done on people who actually can respond i.e. not on babies. Thus they might confirm that "gayness" cannot be "cured" but they cannot confirm that people born with it. And that's a big issue and big question. Because if that's either environmental or social then it can be prevented in some cases and people should now that they might have a choice for their children and this is very important.