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Swedish Athletes Sport Rainbow Nails In Moscow

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...3b2_story.html

Originally Posted by Deborski

Swedish Athletes Sport Rainbow Nails In Moscow

World champion Isinbayeva condemns homosexuality, criticizes Swedes for rainbow-colored nails - The Washington Post

I would consider it huge disrespect for myself if I was spoken for in such a manner. Is anyone entitled to manipulating other people's opinions which they don't even have a clue of? (speaking "for the nation" is really a bright example of this) How do you Russian people even put up with things like that?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

I would consider it huge disrespect for myself if I was spoken for in such a manner. Is anyone entitled to manipulating other people's opinions which they don't even have a clue of? (speaking "for the nation" is really a bright example of this) How do you Russian people even put up with things like that?

Agree 100% here, Eric. I've read what this Russian athlete said here Isinbayeva says Green Tregaro's gesture was disrespectful to Russia | Sport | theguardian.com and I do consider it disrespect because she is speaking 'for the nation' as if she is convinced that 'the nation' should think the way she does, and that 'the nation' should have a single opinion which coincides with hers. Speaking for the nation in such a way makes one look stupid.

As for the rainbow looking nails on the Swede's hands, does it look like 'promotion of something' ?- the word promotion is used by The Guardian to translate the Russian word пропаганда.

Originally Posted by alexsms

Agree 100% here, Eric. I've read what this Russian athlete said here Isinbayeva says Green Tregaro's gesture was disrespectful to Russia | Sport | theguardian.com and I do consider it disrespect because she is speaking 'for the nation' as if she is convinced that 'the nation' should think the way she does, and that 'the nation' should have a single opinion which coincides with hers. Speaking for the nation in such a way makes one look stupid.

As for the rainbow looking nails on the Swede's hands, does it look like 'promotion of something' ?- the word promotion is used by The Guardian to translate the Russian word пропаганда.

Yes, it's sooooo horrible of her to say this?:
"When we go to different countries, we try to follow their rules. We are not trying to set our rules over there. We are just trying to be respectful."

She is overreacting about the fingernails, though. Let them all colour them pink, rainbow colours, whatever, who cares.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Yes, it's sooooo horrible of her to say this?:
"When we go to different countries, we try to follow their rules. We are not trying to set our rules over there. We are just trying to be respectful."

She is overreacting about the fingernails, though. Let them all colour them pink, rainbow colours, whatever, who cares.

Do you even realize that one of the main goals of any country is to assure no individual's basic rights (such as the right to be who they are, the right for self-expression, the freedom of speech etc.) are ever violated? What imaginary "rules" can one be talking about like that? Can you imagine one walking over to you on the street and saying, "according to my views, you must not wear these clothes", or, as you're walking out of a night club with a girl, someone getting into your way and saying, "my beliefs forbid you to get laid with this girl" ? How's that? Sounds a bit fascist, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

Do you even realize that one of the main goals of any country is to assure no individual's basic rights (such as the right to be who they are, the right for self-expression, the freedom of speech etc.) are ever violated? What imaginary "rules" can one be talking about like that? Can you imagine one walking over to you on the street and saying, "according to my views, you must not wear these clothes", or, as you're walking out of a night club with a girl, someone getting into your way and saying, "my beliefs forbid you to get laid with this girl" ? How's that? Sounds a bit fascist, doesn't it?

LOL! From her quote, that could apply in many Western countries especially with issues like immigration etc. etc. Since, you bring it up, it sounds like there are groups who don't want to grant her the same rights (freedom of expression).

Under-fire Yelena Isinbayeva says she was misunderstood - The Globe and Mail

Originally Posted by 14Russian

LOL! From her quote, that could apply in many Western countries especially with issues like immigration etc. etc. Since, you bring it up, it sounds like there are groups who don't want to grant her the same rights (freedom of expression).

Under-fire Yelena Isinbayeva says she was misunderstood - The Globe and Mail

Of course, she's free to say what she thinks; though it does not mean it can't be somewhat really shocking to lots of people; honestly, I was really surprised by the "normal people" statement of hers too, because I would never think a person with her background could ever make statements of that kind.