Thread: Sochi Olympics and the Law against Gays in Russia +

Originally Posted by Throbert McGee

When I read the phrase "rainbow nails", I was thinking of something more like this, with little tiny rainbow stripes on EACH nail:

Yeah I thought so too when I wrote my comment about it. It's kind of a cute look though, if you take the politics out of it.

But nail salons are not common in Sweden (it's an American - Anglo thing) and you couldn't do that yourself..
From the look of Emma Tregaro's nails she simply used some nail polish she had at home.
Since she was hellbent on doing it, she might as well have done it with style. There's probably an American style nail salon somewhere in Moscow that she could have gone to, to do it properly.

Originally Posted by Hanna

But nail salons are not common in Sweden (it's an American - Anglo thing)

Totally off the thread topic, but nail salons of this type in the States -- I've heard -- owe much of their popularity to (a) Vietnamese boat-people, and (b) actress Tippi Hedren, best known for Hitchcock's The Birds!

The story goes that Ms. Hedren, at a party in the 1970s, met a couple of Vietnamese-American entrepreneurs (a former South Vietnamese general and his wife!) who owned some hair salons in Los Angeles. At the time, their salons only did very simple manicures. Hedren told them that some Hollywood actresses paid hundreds of dollars for ultra-fancy nails with stripes and rhinestones glued all over them, and that Vietnamese girls who only knew 10 words of English could be taught how to give these "Hollywood style" manicures to middle-class American housewives, bringing in a much bigger profit for the salon.

Tippi's suggestion was a brilliant success, and even now more than half the nail salons in the U.S. are Vietnamese-owned.

Originally Posted by Throbert McGee

Totally off the thread topic, but nail salons of this type in the States -- I've heard -- owe much of their popularity to (a) Vietnamese boat-people, and (b) actress Tippi Hedren, best known for Hitchcock's The Birds!

The story goes that Ms. Hedren, at a party in the 1970s, met a couple of Vietnamese-American entrepreneurs (a former South Vietnamese general and his wife!) who owned some hair salons in Los Angeles. At the time, their salons only did very simple manicures. Hedren told them that some Hollywood actresses paid hundreds of dollars for ultra-fancy nails with stripes and rhinestones glued all over them, and that Vietnamese girls who only knew 10 words of English could be taught how to give these "Hollywood style" manicures to middle-class American housewives, bringing in a much bigger profit for the salon.

Tippi's suggestion was a brilliant success, and even now more than half the nail salons in the U.S. are Vietnamese-owned.

All of the local nail salons are owned by Vietnamese immigrants, at least here in Spokane. I used to get my nails done when I was working in TV, but these days I don't bother with it often, and when I do, I apply my own acrylic because it's much less expensive than shelling out up to $50 for a professional manicure.

By the way: The people in Finland are not like the rest of Europe on this.
They are more on the Russian side of this debate.

They think everyone in Sweden (brother nation...) has gone totally insane, and become obsessed with this matter. (I agree with them) The Finns are 100% "be a real man" and almost take it too far at times, with neanderthal behaviour, spitting snuff boozing. The leading "gay personality" in Sweden, is actually Finnish. You can't turn on the TV without seeing his face within five minutes, and his lover who is also a TV personality.

Originally Posted by Marcus

The real power is in the hands of those who control the American financial system.

Agree, but no point mixing up religion with it. It's hardly religious motives driving the people in question.

A Swedish female athlete competed in Russia today and had a rainbow manicure which she showed off after she jumped. Nothing, of course, happened.

However Elena Isinbayeva, the Russian gold medalist said it was insensitive and showing a lack of respect for her country.

How can it possibly be showing disrespect to a country? (or any particular person at all)

I do want to thank all the people on this thread who have kept this discussion civil! I know how volatile this issue is. It is nice to be able to discuss it without delving into a flamefest of name-calling and character assassination. Thanks everyone who has the maturity to agree to disagree.

And Hanna, I really do respect and appreciate the honesty it took to admit that gay people cannot change.

Swedish Athletes Sport Rainbow Nails In Moscow

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...3b2_story.html

Originally Posted by Deborski

Swedish Athletes Sport Rainbow Nails In Moscow

World champion Isinbayeva condemns homosexuality, criticizes Swedes for rainbow-colored nails - The Washington Post

I would consider it huge disrespect for myself if I was spoken for in such a manner. Is anyone entitled to manipulating other people's opinions which they don't even have a clue of? (speaking "for the nation" is really a bright example of this) How do you Russian people even put up with things like that?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

I would consider it huge disrespect for myself if I was spoken for in such a manner. Is anyone entitled to manipulating other people's opinions which they don't even have a clue of? (speaking "for the nation" is really a bright example of this) How do you Russian people even put up with things like that?

Agree 100% here, Eric. I've read what this Russian athlete said here Isinbayeva says Green Tregaro's gesture was disrespectful to Russia | Sport | theguardian.com and I do consider it disrespect because she is speaking 'for the nation' as if she is convinced that 'the nation' should think the way she does, and that 'the nation' should have a single opinion which coincides with hers. Speaking for the nation in such a way makes one look stupid.

As for the rainbow looking nails on the Swede's hands, does it look like 'promotion of something' ?- the word promotion is used by The Guardian to translate the Russian word пропаганда.

Originally Posted by alexsms

Agree 100% here, Eric. I've read what this Russian athlete said here Isinbayeva says Green Tregaro's gesture was disrespectful to Russia | Sport | theguardian.com and I do consider it disrespect because she is speaking 'for the nation' as if she is convinced that 'the nation' should think the way she does, and that 'the nation' should have a single opinion which coincides with hers. Speaking for the nation in such a way makes one look stupid.

As for the rainbow looking nails on the Swede's hands, does it look like 'promotion of something' ?- the word promotion is used by The Guardian to translate the Russian word пропаганда.

Yes, it's sooooo horrible of her to say this?:
"When we go to different countries, we try to follow their rules. We are not trying to set our rules over there. We are just trying to be respectful."

She is overreacting about the fingernails, though. Let them all colour them pink, rainbow colours, whatever, who cares.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Yes, it's sooooo horrible of her to say this?:
"When we go to different countries, we try to follow their rules. We are not trying to set our rules over there. We are just trying to be respectful."

She is overreacting about the fingernails, though. Let them all colour them pink, rainbow colours, whatever, who cares.

Do you even realize that one of the main goals of any country is to assure no individual's basic rights (such as the right to be who they are, the right for self-expression, the freedom of speech etc.) are ever violated? What imaginary "rules" can one be talking about like that? Can you imagine one walking over to you on the street and saying, "according to my views, you must not wear these clothes", or, as you're walking out of a night club with a girl, someone getting into your way and saying, "my beliefs forbid you to get laid with this girl" ? How's that? Sounds a bit fascist, doesn't it?

I've no doubt, my sudden appearance in this thread will close it for sure.

Originally Posted by Paul G.

I've no doubt, my sudden appearance in this thread will close it for sure.

No, it won't be. You can keep trolling and I'll keep deleting it.

Originally Posted by Lampada

No, it won't be. You can keep trolling and I'll keep deleting it.

That's no surprise. 'Don't agree with it and it's deleted.... and allowing certain people to have the last word before closing threads, too. Also, you're really Russian... lol

Certain forum categories here are useless to participate in unless you share the mod's p.o.v. Don't waste your time, Paul.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

That's no surprise. 'Don't agree with it and it's deleted.... and allowing certain people to have the last word before closing threads, too. Also, you're really Russian... lol

Certain forum categories here are useless to participate in unless you share the mod's p.o.v. Don't waste your time, Paul.

It isn't about anyone's point of view. It's about keeping the discussion civil. Paul has personally attacked me in several other threads. I am glad that someone is moderating him and anyone else whose idea of "debate" includes badmouthing people personally, attacking their character and making rude, insulting comments.

There are plenty of people on this thread who have expressed their opposition to gay rights in much more polite terms, and they have not been "censored" in any way.

Lampada is doing an excellent job. I for one, applaud her.

Also, I am not sure what the "you're really Russian" comment means. You're really Canadian. And so what?

Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn | Psychology Today

From this article:

One study asked heterosexal men how comfortable and anxious they are around gay men. Based on these scores, they then divided these men into two groups: men that are homophobic, and men who are not. These men were then shown three, four-minute videos. One video depicted straight sex, one depicted lesbian sex and one depicted gay male sex. While this was happening, a device was attached to each participant's penis. This device has been found to be triggered by sexual arousal, but not other types of arousal (such as nervousness, or fear - arousal often has a very different meaning in psychology than in popular usage).

When viewing lesbian sex and straight sex, both the homophobic and the non-homophobic men showed increased penis circumference. For gay male sex, however, only the homophobic men showed heightened penis arousal.

Heterosexual men with the most anti-gay attitudes, when asked, reported not being sexually aroused by gay male sex videos. But, their penises reported otherwise.

Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts.

Judging from the litany of hateful comments on the photo

This is how we comment on EVERYTHING. I guess it is purely of boredom.
Also, I could not find rainbows on her nails.
Also, rainbows is a beautiful nature's phenomenon and we will not farm out it to neither NATO nor OPEC

Originally Posted by maxmixiv

This is how we comment on EVERYTHING. I guess it is purely of boredom.
Also, I could not find rainbows on her nails.
Also, rainbows is a beautiful nature's phenomenon and we will not farm out it to neither NATO nor OPEC

Каспаров: "Бойкотируйте Путина, не игры в Сочи"

From this article:

Бойкот Сочи, который нужен, – это бойкот Игр мировыми лидерами, знаменитостями и спонсорами. Не приезжайте в Сочи сидеть рядом с Путиным, делая вид, что этот мир отделен от созданного им полицейского государства. Пусть места на стадионах останутся свободными, особенно VIP-секции, которые, как надеется Путин, будут заполнены президентами и премьер-министрами...

...Политикам нельзя позволить использовать атлетов как щит для собственной трусости. Мир будет наблюдать".

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Everything will be okay with that. Don't worry No gay persecutions, apparantly