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  1. #141
    Lena
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    Thanks for your explanation on “любопытно”.
    Спасибо для ваше обьяснения про “любопытно”.
    Спасибо за ваше обьяснение про “любопытно”.
    Thanks for = спасибо за + accusative.

    It was very helpful.
    Его очень помогаюшего.
    Оно было очень полезным.
    Your version is too far from the original. We can remain your sentence structure and make a word-by-word translation here. There is no subject in your sentence, anyway. The word “его” is not in the nominative, so it cannot be the subject. The nominative of “его” is ”он”.
    It also could be “Оно мне очень помогло.”

    I had hoped that you would comment on some of my questions concerning life in the past there in Kiev, and how it compares to your life now.
    Я надеялся, что вы были бы заметите про меня вопросы относительно прошедшую жизнь в киеве и как это сейчас сравнивает с своими жизню.
    Я надеялся, что вы прокомментируете некоторые из моих вопросов относительно прошлой жизни в Киеве и скажете, можно ли ее сравнить с теперешней жизнью.
    “Would” can have several functions in English.
    1. the auxillary verb in the future tenses instead of “will” when we observe the sequense of tenses
    2. the auxillary verb in the subjunctive mood
    3. modal verb
    Here you used “would” in the first function, just to indicate the Future Simple Tense. The action “comment” is not unreal like in the Subjunctive. Convert the original into the present to feel that. “I hope that you will comment...” So it should be rendered by the Russian future tense.
    Относительно + genitive

    I don’t have any plans for today.
    Я сегодня не имеюсь никакого план.
    У меня нет никаких планов на сегодня.
    It is better to translate “I have” into ”У меня есть” and “I don’t have” into “у меня нет” in spoken language. “я имею” and ”я не имею” sounds too official, but it’s not inconceivable, as you said.
    For today = на сегодня, today = сегодня.

    I wanted to write some more, and practice.
    Я хотел больше писать и практиковать.
    Я хотел больше пописать и попрактиковаться.
    I think you didn’t mean to say “I wanted to be in the process of writing”. You meant “I wanted to do a certain amount of work and finish it”.
    So the perfective should be used here.

    Is there anything in the news that interests you?
    Есть ли что-нибудь в новости, которые в ваше мнении интерсным?
    Есть ли в новостях что-нибудь, что вас заинтересовало?
    I put the subject “что-нибудь” closer to the subordinate clause “что вас заинтересовало” which specifies it, so it can be perceived easier.
    I transferred the subordinate clause into the past tense. It sounds more natural but I don’t know why.

  2. #142
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    Kevin, why are you sitting there twiddling your thumbs? I want to see my mistakes, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helenej View Post
    Kevin, why are you sitting there twiddling your thumbs? I want to see my mistakes, too.
    ha ha....well, in that last message the only mistake I saw was that you misspelled "sequence" You're a very easy person to correct! lol

  4. #144
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    Kevin, don't you think that I'm overloading you with grammar? I just judge by myself. I know that I can only learn a foreign language by using logic. I want to understand. It's my frame of mind. Perhaps I would like to become a baby and have loving parents who would speak with me, showing me things and naming them and giving me speach patterns until I get used to them. I would like to listen to them for a year and then say my first word. Without any effort from my side, without this tormenting pain and disappointment. I don't have such a chance. I have to understand the rule and produce my own sentences applying it.
    I know that different people may learn a language in different ways. Maybe someone can help learn in a different way. I wish I knew how.

  5. #145
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    Kevin, may I only answer short questions instead of writing essays, please? I've never been good at them.
    Every time I start thinking over my essay even in Russian I've got a terrible headache.

  6. #146
    Lena
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    I wanted to write some more, and practice.
    Я хотел еще немного пописать и попрактиковаться.
    It would be much better. My former version, being grammatically correct, doesn't sound good Russian.
    Sound good Russian? I feel this doesn't sound good English, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helenej View Post
    Kevin, may I only answer short questions instead of writing essays, please? I've never been good at them.
    Every time I start thinking over my essay even in Russian I've got a terrible headache.
    That's fine Elena

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helenej View Post
    I wanted to write some more, and practice.
    Я хотел еще немного пописать и попрактиковаться.
    It would be much better. My former version, being grammatically correct, doesn't sound good Russian.
    Sound good Russian? I feel this doesn't sound good English, though.
    My former version, being grammatically correct, doesn't sound (like) good Russian.

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    No, I don’t believe you’re overloading me with grammar, Lena. Your explanations are very helpful. You’re right about using logic to learn. I feel that sometimes I don’t use logic. I understand your thoughts about disappointment and difficulty. If we had learned when we were younger it may have been easier, but we are where we are! I just keep moving forward, and I think you have to do the same. Our practice makes us better people, I believe.

    Нет Лена, я не поверить что вы мне перегрузились с грамматиками. Ваш обьяснения очень полезными. Вы правильно используете логику то, чтобы учиться. Я считаю, что иногда я не использую логику Я понимаю ваших мысли об разочарования и трудности. Если мы учились в своих молодости то, что следовало было бы легче, но зато мы точно здесь! Я же продолжаю направлять вперед и я думаю приходится так же вам. Наш практика нас делает лучше людей.

  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgcole View Post
    My former version, being grammatically correct, doesn't sound (like) good Russian.
    Would "doesn't sound Russian" be correct? I mean if I wanted to say it without the word "good". Or I should say "doesn't sound like Russian"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helenej View Post
    Would "doesn't sound Russian" be correct? I mean if I wanted to say it without the word "good". Or I should say "doesn't sound like Russian"?
    Sure, "doesn't sound Russian" would be fine

  12. #152
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    No, I don’t believe you’re overloading me with grammar.
    Нет, я не поверить что вы мне перегрузились с грамматиками.
    Нет, я не думаю, что вы меня слишком нагрузили грамматикой.
    The predicate cannot be expressed by the infinitive поверить, but only by finite verb forms.
    You haven’t stoped believing, you are in the process of believing. Therefore you should use the imperfect.
    “Believe” has two meanings.
    1. to have an opinion, to think and corresponds to Russian считать, думать, полагать
    2. to trust, to think that something unproved is true. In this meaning it corresponds to верить.
    Перегрузить means to take a load and put it into another place or to take the load and put it at the same place once again. I just gave you too much load.

    Your explanations are very helpful.
    Ваш обьяснения очень полезными. (!!!)
    Ваши объяснения очень полезны.
    We have the compound nominal predicate here. It consists of the linking verb быть in the present tense, which is usually omitted, and the predicative очень полезные.
    The predicative expressed by the noun, the adjective or the ordinal numeral is
    in the NOMINATIVE when the linking verb is in the present tense or
    in the INSTRUMENTAL when the linking verb is in the past or future tense.
    Они полезные. Они были полезными. Они будут полезными.
    Она моя подруга. Она была моей подругой. Она будет моей подругой.
    Она шестая. Она была шестой. Она будет шестой.

    You’re right about using logic to learn.
    Вы правильно используете логику то, чтобы учиться.
    Вы правы относительно использования логики при обучении.

    I feel that sometimes I don’t use logic.
    Я считаю, что иногда я не использую логику. (!!!)
    Or maybe Мне кажется, что иногда я не использую логику. That implies a lesser degree of confidence.

    I understand your thoughts about disappointment and difficulty.
    Я понимаю ваших мысли об разочарования и трудности. (!!!)
    Я понимаю ваши мысли о разочарованиях и трудностях.
    We use “об” only if the folliwing word begins with a vowel like in “об oдном человеке”.

    If we had learned when we were younger it may have been easier, but we are where we are!
    Если мы учились в своих молодости то, что следовало было бы легче, но зато мы точно здесь!
    Если бы мы учились в молодости, возможно, нам было бы легче. Но мы там, где мы есть.
    The verbs in both clauses should be put in the conjunctive mood.
    The following illustrates the using of “но зато”.
    Я не постирала белье, зато я разморозила холодильник.
    I didn’t wash the linen ... I unfroze the fridge.
    I wonder how you would translate this.

    I just keep moving forward, and I think you have to do the same.
    Я же продолжаю направлять вперед и я думаю приходится так же вам.
    Я просто все время двигаюсь вперед и думаю, что вам нужно делать то же.
    Keep thinking = все время думаю, постоянно думаю.

    Our practice makes us better people, I believe.
    Наш практика нас делает лучше людей.
    Я считаю, что наша практика делает нас лучше.

  13. #153
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    I’d like to comment on the word “зато” a little more. As I just looked up, it is used for balancing the bad and the good.
    Like in my example “Я не постирала белье, зато я разморозила холодильник.” I denote a bad thing for me in the first clause and I am balancing it with a good thing in the second one (what about my tenses here?) You can look the English equivalents up. I keep feeling amazed (?) at the way we use so many words correctly without even knowing what they express, but only feeling that.

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    As for my comparison of our previous life here with our present life.
    In the soviet time we used to live a satisfied and safe life in material regard. But at the same time it was a dictatorship, which I hated. I’m of a rebel frame of mind, you know. Now the life is much harder. Nevertheless it’s a life of freedom and big possibilities for everyone. I do think if you are talented and hard-working you can achieve if not everything but very much.

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    And a question for you. Which is more preferable in the US, the word "surname" or "last name"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helenej View Post
    And a question for you. Which is more preferable in the US, the word "surname" or "last name"?

    In the US most people use "last name". Surname sounds pretty formal to an American, and is used formally and informally in the UK depending on where you are there. Also rare but not necessarily unheard is "family name".

    US English names in a nutshell in order of common usage (from my perspective, at least):
    1. first name, given name, Christian name, forename (very unlikely to hear this in the US)
    2. Middle name, second/third/etc name
    3. Last name, surname, family name

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    Quote Originally Posted by zxc View Post
    In the US most people use "last name". Surname sounds pretty formal to an American, and is used formally and informally in the UK depending on where you are there. Also rare but not necessarily unheard is "family name".

    US English names in a nutshell in order of common usage (from my perspective, at least):
    1. first name, given name, Christian name, forename (very unlikely to hear this in the US)
    2. Middle name, second/third/etc name
    3. Last name, surname, family name
    Wow, it's such an irrefragable answer. I like that Americans are so logical in this line: first - middle - last. Easy to remember. Thank you.

  18. #158
    Lena
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    I’d like to comment on the word “зато” a little more. As I just looked up, it is used for balancing the bad and the good. Like in my example “Я не постирала белье, зато я разморозила холодильник.” I denote a thing which is bad to me in the first clause and I am balancing it with a good thing in the second one (what about my tenses here? ) You can look the English equivalents up.
    I keep feeling amazed (?) at the way we use so many words correctly without even knowing what they express, but only feeling that.

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    As for my comparison of our previous life here with our present life.
    In the soviet time we used to live a satisfied and safe life in material regard. But at the same time it was a dictatorship, which I hated.
    I’m of a rebel frame of mind, you know. Now the life is much harder. Nevertheless it’s a life of freedom and big possibilities for everyone.
    I do think if you are talented and hard-working you can achieve if not everything but very much.

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    Я надеюсь, что я был обнадеживающим о ваших изучениях, Лена. Вообше-то, в вашем последнем ответе, есть нет какые-нибудь ошибки. Как я был бы говорить, «You should be pleased»?

    I hope I was encouraging to you about your studies, Lena. Generally, there weren’t any mistakes in your last reply. How would I say, “You should be pleased”?

    Мы ужинали пиззами сегодня вечером. Я ездил в гастроному и покупал что нам нужно то, чтобы это поготовить. Для десерта мы ели мороженое и мы разговорили.

    We had pizza tonight for dinner. I went to the grocery store and got what we needed to cook it. For dessert we had ice cream, and we talked.

    Вы прокомментировали относительно как мы использоваем словы, без знание их смыслы и я согласен. Мы использаваем как вы говорите, инстиктом. В молодости мы учиться как делаем сейчас, примером, пытаться с ошибками. Взрослый нас исправили и скажут нам правила как мы идём. Но мы должни делаем ошибки. Вы хотите Скайп попробовать на следующем уикэнде? Я буду стараться вас помогать по-английски

    You commented on how we use words not even knowing what they really mean, and I agree. We use them, as you say, on instinct. As children, we learn as we’re doing now, by example, by trial and error. Adults correct us, and tell us the rules as we go. But we must make mistakes. Next weekend would you like to try and Skype? I’ll try and help you with your English

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