Quote Originally Posted by it-ogo View Post
Ah, then it was just a mirage.

What is your point, Croc? I can be unhappy of Ukr govt actions as well, but what is your conclusion?
He's much better at speculating and criticizing - I tried to pressure him before but he is a bit slippery! Plus, I think Croc has some "Ukrainian connection". However I think Crocodile is more sympathetic towards Russia in this particular question than he normally is! Maybe Croc loves Crimea and nostalgia/patriotism finally got the better of him!

How about this though, it-ogo: If you get rid of the parts of the country that are not really loyal to Kiev anyway, parts of Eastern Ukraine, Southern or wherever (they become independent, or go to Russia), then THE REST of the country can do the "Western" thing, follow all the instructions of the EU, IMF, USA and what not, and eventually become an EU member.

You want EU membership, right? Because the alternative is some kind of union with Russia & co - a country can't really go it alone, unless it's made of oil or banks like Norway and Switzerland, and even those two have allegiances.

(As far as I am concerned, while supporting the opposition and a coup d'etat, the EU has lead Ukraine on this merry piper dance, and owes it to them now, to get Ukraine into the EU).

The way it is right now, one half of the country seems to always fight the other, and they are pulling in different directions, meaning the country can never progress! Belgium is a bit the same; two countries stuck in one and always fighting and pointing fingers. It's turned out extremely expensive for them!

From the outside perspective it looks like siamese twins, stuck in the same body, trying to walk in different directions! For 22 years now, this has been going on in Ukraine, how much more can you take?

Don't you agree that it is a stalemate, and something needs to be sacrificed to be able to get the game moving again?

I guess the alternative is to force everyone to support the new regime and just get on with it...

But Kiev also needs to keep in mind that minimum requirement for EU membership includes absolutely no territorial disputes in progress, and must be able to demonstrate that it's democratic.