Thread: Sochi Olympics and the Law against Gays in Russia +

Originally Posted by Lampada

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Cher Turns Down Offer to Perform at Russian Olympics Because of Homophobic Laws


I wonder who is big oligarch?

I saw that story and it struck me that Cher could have agreed to perform, and that she could have used the opportunity to make a statement by dedicating her song to Russia's gays and lesbians. What would they do, arrest her?

Originally Posted by Deborski

I saw that story and it struck me that Cher could have agreed to perform, and that she could have used the opportunity to make a statement by dedicating her song to Russia's gays and lesbians.

Make a statement to whom? Among some gay men -- at least in the English-speaking world -- Cher has a sort of cult following as a "Diva," but do most non-gay Russians today even care who she is or what she says? (Her last really big hit, "Believe," was in the late 1990s.) So, once again, is the point of all this to make LGBT Westerners feel flattered, special, important as they're watching the Olympics on television in Europe and North America?

Or is the point of this so that Cher can sell tickets to American gay men when they bring her out in a motorized wheelchair for her "No, Wait, THIS Is My Farewell Tour and This Time I Really Mean That It's the Last One", sometime around 2035?

I thought the goal was to be helpful to LGBT people within Russian society!

PS. Okay, hmmm... I just Googled and apparently she did tour Moscow and St. Petersburg in 2004.

PPS. And, admittedly, there will always be a place in my heart for "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves". But even so, would she really be able to change-the-hearts-and-minds of the Russian public?

PPPS. But on the other hand, I think it's a great idea in a South Park-ish way, in the spirit of Mecha-Streisand.

Originally Posted by Throbert McGee

Make a statement to whom? Among some gay men -- at least in the English-speaking world -- Cher has a sort of cult following as a "Diva," but do most non-gay Russians today even care who she is or what she says? (Her last really big hit, "Believe," was in the late 1990s.) So, once again, is the point of all this to make LGBT Westerners feel flattered, special, important as they're watching the Olympics on television in Europe and North America?

*shrug* It was just a thought.

Guess I can't win for losing.

Bowing out of the discussion again. No matter who I support, I am wrong.

Originally Posted by Deborski

...Guess I can't win for losing.

Bowing out of the discussion again. No matter who I support, I am wrong.

Потому что можно доказать, что угодно, точно также можно доказать и обратное (софизм). Just have to pick your fights or side.