Results 1 to 20 of 478
Like Tree318Likes

Thread: Sochi Olympics and the Law against Gays in Russia +

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Завсегдатай Throbert McGee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Fairfax, VA (Фэйрфэкс, ш. Виргиния, США)
    Posts
    1,591
    Rep Power
    40
    И это -- своего рода "рекламирование гетеросексуальности":



    И сегодня, даже кодга на автобусах в некоторых западных городах радужные флажки появляются -- на всего 1-2 недели в июне -- гетеросексуальность всё таки уважают, рекламируют, и "водружают на пьедесатал" как социальный идеал, ВЕЗДЕ и ВСЕГДА.

    И всё-таки, примерно 1 из 40 детей окажется геем или лесбиянкой! А мы тоже с детства смотрели такие к/ф, как "Спящая Красавица" -- также, как вы гетеросексуал(ист)ы!

  2. #2
    Moderator Lampada's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    СССР -> США
    Posts
    18,033
    Rep Power
    37
    Quote Originally Posted by Throbert McGee View Post
    И это -- своего рода "рекламирование гетеросексуальности":

    ...
    И сегодня, даже кодга на автобусах в некоторых западных городах радужные флажки появляются -- на всего 1-2 недели в июне -- гетеросексуальность всё таки уважают, рекламируют, и "водружают на пьедесатал" как социальный идеал, ВЕЗДЕ и ВСЕГДА.

    И всё-таки, примерно 1 из 40 детей окажется геем или лесбиянкой! А мы тоже с детства смотрели такие к/ф, как "Спящая Красавица" -- также, как вы гетеросексуал(ист)ы!
    Где-то я читала, что гомосексуалистов гораздо больше чем 1 из 40, просто понятно, что большинство скрытых. Ой, какие смешные вопросы народ задаёт! "Откуда у нас в стране столько геев и лезбиянок?", "Почему среди геев столько талантливых людей" и т.п. Вот тоже смешно: 10 вопросов П
    "...Важно, чтобы форум оставался местом, объединяющим людей, для которых интересны русский язык и культура. ..." - MasterАdmin (из переписки)



  3. #3
    Завсегдатай Throbert McGee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Fairfax, VA (Фэйрфэкс, ш. Виргиния, США)
    Posts
    1,591
    Rep Power
    40
    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada View Post
    Где-то я читала, что гомосексуалистов гораздо больше чем 1 из 40, просто понятно, что большинство скрытых. Ой, какие смешные вопросы народ задаёт! "Откуда у нас в стране столько геев и лезбиянок?", "Почему среди геев столько талантливых людей" и т.п. Вот тоже смешно: 10 вопросов П
    Ссылка прикольная -- спасибо! (I've downloaded the page to read at my leisure... alas, I'm a lot slower in Russian!)

  4. #4
    Завсегдатай Throbert McGee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Fairfax, VA (Фэйрфэкс, ш. Виргиния, США)
    Posts
    1,591
    Rep Power
    40
    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada View Post
    Вот тоже смешно: 10 вопросов П
    I enjoyed reading this, but I certainly don't agree with everything the author said!

    Regarding the percentage of the population that is bisexual, Kinsey and his disciples argued that sexual orientation can be mapped onto a standard-looking bell curve something like this:



    That is, with a small number of "total homosexuals" on the left, an approximately equal number of "total heterosexuals" on the right, and a huge mountain of "equal-opportunity bisexuals" in the middle.

    But other researchers have claimed that the actual bell curve for orientation is shaped more like this -- it's upside-down, and also asymmetric from left to right:



    Here, there's a small mountain of homosexuals on the left, a larger mountain of heterosexuals on the right, and a VALLEY of bisexuals in between -- in other words, bisexuals are RARER than homosexuals. (Although in reality, the "hetero peak" is possibly ten times as tall as the "homo peak" -- not twice as tall, as in this example.)

    If Kinsey was correct, then there is possibly a huge number of "hidden bisexuals", like the enormous mass of an iceberg underneath the water, though we can only see the tip of the iceberg. But if the "inverse bell curve" model is correct, then the 2-5% estimate for the number of homosexuals represents most of the non-heterosexual population -- in other words, there's NOT a gigantic number of bisexuals who are waiting to come out of the closet as soon as same-sex marriage is legalized, and thereby cause a demographic catastrophe.

    As to which bell curve more closely represents reality -- honestly, I have no idea.

    PS. I'd heard some of the author's points made by other people in English, but two things from the link that were totally new to me: First, the funny-but-disgusting neologism гетераст -- obviously meant to be an equivalent to the rude slang word "breeder" used by English-speaking gays, but to me it sounds even worse!

    Second, the author implies that King Saul may have felt a homoerotic attraction to David: ""Он [Давид] был белокур, с красивыми глазами и приятным лицем. [...] и очень понравился ему [Саулу]" (1 Samuel 16:12 and16:21). I have certainly heard the hypothesis that David and Jonathan (Saul's son) may have had a "chastely homoerotic" affection between them, or that D & J were even lovers. But this is the first time I've seen the suggestion that there was a "triangle of jealousy" between Saul, Jonathan, and David. The Bible makes clear enough that King Saul envied David because he knew that David was destined to be a greater king, but of course зависть (envy) and ревность (jealousy) are two different things. And, honestly, I think that the author misquotes the verses to make it seem that Saul took special notice of David's good looks.

    PPS. If you're looking for an "ancient gay romance", I think the textual evidence is much stronger for Gilgamesh and Enkidu than for Jonathan and David. (Even Gilgamesh and Enkidu can be interpreted as platonic heterosexual friends, not male lovers -- but the "hints" of homosexuality are a bit louder in that case.)
    Attached Images Attached Images

Similar Threads

  1. Sochi 2014 - Olympic Winter Games (official site)
    By MasterAdmin in forum Sports and Olympics
    Replies: 67
    Last Post: March 11th, 2014, 02:47 PM
  2. Replies: 7
    Last Post: May 14th, 2013, 07:25 AM
  3. Olympics 2012!
    By Hanna in forum Sports and Olympics
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: December 20th, 2012, 02:16 AM
  4. Olympics
    By capecoddah in forum Sports and Olympics
    Replies: 30
    Last Post: March 1st, 2006, 09:26 PM
  5. olympics 2012
    By possopo in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: March 11th, 2005, 07:01 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


Russian Lessons                           

Russian Tests and Quizzes            

Russian Vocabulary