Thread: Both - plural or singular?

Which one is correct:

1. If both the dealer and the player has очко then dealer wins.

2. If both the dealer and the player have очко then dealer wins.

Я склоняюсь к первому варианту. Хотя, второй тоже не плох...

Originally Posted by Ramil

Which one is correct:

1. If both the dealer and the player has очко then dealer wins.

2. If both the dealer and the player have очко then dealer wins.

2 Is correct as its present tense.

However, plenty of English speakers will use the past tense in your first example (1) and get away with it, so it depends how accurate you want to be.

Originally Posted by Ezri

Originally Posted by Ramil

Which one is correct:

1. If both the dealer and the player has очко then dealer wins.

2. If both the dealer and the player have очко then dealer wins.

2 Is correct as its present tense.

However, plenty of English speakers will use the past tense in your first example (1) and get away with it, so it depends how accurate you want to be.

I see - every time I don't know the difference I should use the past tense
Just joking. Actually I was asking in general - when I use the word 'both' should I use plural or singular afterwards?

1 variant : Both {1} and {2} have (because there are two of them)
I think this one is correct but maybe in English I should use

2 variant : Both {1} and {2} has (because 'has' relates to 'both', not to the {1} or {2})

Originally Posted by Ramil

1 variant : Both {1} and {2} have (because there are two of them)
I think this one is correct

You're absolutely right, Ramil.

BTW, "both" is plural as well, so the second variant can never be correct.
F.ex.:

I met Annie and Laurie. Both were (pl.!) wearing the same red dress.

Originally Posted by BabaYaga

BTW, "both" is plural as well, so the second variant can never be correct.

ty

Tie?

Plural.

And, if anybody says "had", it's only because they are thinking "conditional" because of "if". It doesn't mean past tense.

Originally Posted by Rtyom

Tie?

I was pretty sure that I did type 'ty'.

Originally Posted by Xkalibur

Я склоняюсь к первому варианту. Хотя, второй тоже неплох...

Isn't the word "Ti" the informal way of saying "you" in Russian??

"both" is plural: both are, both have. but when you have intervening words or phrases, sometimes the speaker forgets and just uses the verb form that matches the closest noun.

Originally Posted by Ramil

Originally Posted by Rtyom

Tie?

I was pretty sure that I did type 'ty'.

Originally Posted by Lampada

Originally Posted by Ramil

Originally Posted by Rtyom

Tie?

I was pretty sure that I did type 'ty'.

Это ты редактировала моё сообщение?

Originally Posted by Ramil

Originally Posted by Lampada

Originally Posted by Ramil

Originally Posted by Rtyom

Tie?

I was pretty sure that I did type 'ty'.

Это ты редактировала моё сообщение?

Вот тебе и цензура в Интернете, которую хотят ввести в Европе

Originally Posted by Ramil

Originally Posted by Lampada

Originally Posted by Ramil

Originally Posted by Rtyom

Tie?

I was pretty sure that I did type 'ty'.

Это ты редактировала моё сообщение?

Хотела, как лучше. Ладно, больше не буду.

На всякий случай: ty = thank you

Originally Posted by Ramil

На всякий случай: ty = thank you

Aw Ramil, don't mind them - they're just teasing . I understood you perfectly - and you're very welcome.

Originally Posted by Ramil

Which one is correct:

1. If both the dealer and the player has очко then dealer wins.

2. If both the dealer and the player have очко then dealer wins.

I don't think either one is correct... I really don't think очко is an English word...

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Originally Posted by Ramil

Which one is correct:

1. If both the dealer and the player has очко then dealer wins.

2. If both the dealer and the player have очко then dealer wins.

I don't think either one is correct... I really don't think очко is an English word...

You noticed? Very clever