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    Quote Originally Posted by Sjoasja View Post
    осеннее as-sen-n'i-ji
    осенние as-sen-n'i-ji

    осеннии as-sen-ni-i

    осенняя as-sen-n'uh-juh
    я
    This is how i imagine saying it. -ие -ее the same, whereas the -ии wouldn't have the Y-sound for the last vowel. And the -яя would be the schwa sound of fathEr, with the last vowel a Y-sound to it.
    осеннее, осенние and осеннии all are [ɐsʲenʲ:ɪ.ɪ] for me. (Reduced a, soft s, stressed e, soft long n, short i and short i again)
    The difference can appear only when I pronounce them slowly, sound by sound.

    осенняя is [ɐsʲenʲ:ɪjə], with the first я reduced to [ɪ]. But [ɐsʲenʲ:əjə] sounds good as well.

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    Thanks for all the tips people It's quite helpful. I do find it difficult to find out how well I am speaking and pronounciating the language. I recorded myself reading a short text from the russian penguin course, would someone be willing to listen to it and give me some feedback? I am wondering how easy it is to understand me, how annoying/thick my accent is, and well basically things to improve really!
    The recording you can find on the following URL.
    Vocaroo | Voice message

    I read the following text.
    2015-08-31 22_23_16-Nieuwe melding.jpg

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    With little effort I can understand everything.
    In some words your Ч sounds like Ц. You could work on this sound:
    мальчик pronunciation: How to pronounce мальчик in Russian

    A few errors which might be accidental: бил instead был, Серёжа sounds almost as Сериоза etc
    (Серёжа is on Forvo too)
    "Невозможно передать смысл иностранной фразы, не разрушив при этом её первоначальную структуру."

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    Ah - I'm glad to hear that it's understandable I guess I will always have an accent, but as long as it doesn't get in the way of understanding it's ok. I listened to the recording a few times myself and can definitely agree on the points you mentioned. Interestingly, I wouldn't have recognized these mistakes if you haven't raised it first.

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    Я рад что ты понимаешь меня. По-моему у меня всегда есть акцент, но если все панимают меня, это нет проблема. Я слушал аудизаписи, а я соглашаюсь с тобой о твоём отзыве.

    (might as well try to write more and more in russian, hehehe)

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    > Я рад что ты понимаешь меня.
    Probably "Я рад, что вы понимаете меня." is more appropriate here and now. Russian etiquette insists on the use of plural "вы" (including grammatical case of depended words) if you talk with unknown (not well-known) man. "Ты" is "familiar form" used with friends, family, well-known people and so on. It is not problem now, while you are learning, but this should be learned in first lessons.

    > Я слушал аудизаписи, а я соглашаюсь с тобой о твоём отзыве.
    "Я слушал аудизаписи и я согласен с твоим отзывом."
    Particle ", а" here is something like "but" in english. "Opposition". "I listen, BUT..." implied "I do not agree". Same here. "and"-"и" is ok.
    "соглашаюсь" is imperfect form. Sounds strange. I think it is something like "I am agreeing with you" in english... but I do not know english well. Perfect form "согласен" is ok here.
    "с твоим отзывом" is shorter and sound more natural also.

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    Алэх (саша?)

    Спасибо! Your feedback makes a lot of sense. So.... Я согласен с твоим отзывом! ))
    I still have to get used to using the imperfective and perfective verbs But I'll get it down, sooner or later.

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