Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
All right. We saw many direct negotiations between Moscow and Berlin, Moscow and Washington, etc. That's where the REAL negotiations took place. As for the so called 'Ukrainian temporary government' - they're not politicians, they're bankruptcy supervisors. They sell what they can sell and hope their 'friends' will protect them afterwards (I really doubt this would happen though).
What can a bankruptcy supervisor negotiate about? Only the price. They are not permitted to do any politics.
The interim prime minister in Ukraine, poor chap, he even LOOKS like an EU muppet. Just the kind of person you'd expect to see on television from Brussels representing the Committee for the Investigation of the Proposal for Consideration of Blah.

(I know this is low of me, but don't you agree? This man looks MADE for Brussels. Just the right cuts, shades, specs and beard. Btw, I think he looks Baltic. Or Scandinavian. Well, good luck to him, I guess!
"Haha, John Kerry's jokes are SO funny!"



And as for the protesters in Donetsk; I think they look like rather rough types! (see below). The Guardian wrote yesterday that "the educated middle classes in Eastern Ukraine" have turned against Russia, because of Crimea, as, at the end of the day, they want respect for Ukraine's borders, and Russia did not show that.

So they were quite on-the-spot with the views of at least one person here, I think!
If the Guardian is right, a lot of people changed their mind like that. So it's not a clear-cut case in Eastern Ukraine at all, I think!

Also I don't really believe Russia actually WANTS this area. I mean, large-ish industrial towns... Russia has hundreds of those right? And mines? Ditto that.
If you are going to be cynical, I don't think there'll be any "green men" in Eastern Ukraine. Crimea was unique Eastern Ukraine would cost a lot more than it tasted I think. And if no more than, say, half of the people would be in favour, then it's a completely different proposition anyway. If Russia wanted more land just for the sake of it, it would have incorporated several breakaway republics a long time ago.

Ukraine makes me think of Siamese twins. Stuck in one body but can't get along together, so pulling in two directions and never getting anywhere. And while they are stuck doing that and fighting it out again and again, the rest of the world is getting farther and farther away. It's really tragic.