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Originally Posted by Hanna

"his country" ? Aren't you Russian? Or are you Ukrainian?

It’s a kind of Freudian slip. You may probably need to read “this” instead of “his”. By the way, who do you believe is in charge of everything in Russia? As far as the second part of your question, it’s enough to say that I’m “pro-Russian” but I’d rather observe events from the bird’s-eye position in order not to fall under the bad influence of unscrupulous propaganda machine of any side.)))

Originally Posted by Hanna

I too think he should continue to push for federalization. Politically it's definitely the thing to do.

You should be fully aware that federalization is just one small step from “the abyss of separation”. Even the smallest argument among the provinces might ignite the urge toward independence for some of them, with all the state institutions ready for such fast-track splitting. I’m curious, are you really ready to recommend such a dangerous game plan for Ukraine? What about its territorial integrity?))

Originally Posted by Hanna

But on the other hand, I wouldn't lose any sleep if Russia annexed either. That would teach the USA once and for all, about the price of engineering coup d'etats in Europe. I mean, if they can do this in Ukraine, who in Europe is next?

What do most people in Russia think he should do?

Most Russians think what media tell them to think. As for me, Putin should think first and foremost about Russians in Russia, namely, how to avoid any involvement of regular troops to the conflict, escape further sanctions from the west, and bargain as much as possible political concessions from Poroshenko in exchange for cheaper Russian gas.

But I don't think he should bring Crimea back to Ukraine. They don't deserve it.

Originally Posted by diogen_

You should be fully aware that federalization is just one small step from “the abyss of separation”. Even the smallest argument among the provinces might ignite the urge toward independence for some of them, with all the state institutions ready for such fast-track splitting. I’m curious, are you really ready to recommend such a dangerous game plan for Ukraine? What about its territorial integrity?))

Great post, but I don't know why federalization should be such a threat to Kiev?
Lots of countries are federations and nobody is suggesting they are about to split up.. The USA, Switzerland with its cantons that have great independence, Germany more or less where some areas are run very differently from others and the UK functions as a federal state with local governments in Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast and the central government in London.

It seems like a sensible way to keep a country together, despite the fact that different parts of the country have different interests.

Originally Posted by Hanna

but I don't know why federalization should be such a threat to Kiev?

From what I heard Ukrainian politicians say, in essence - it's easier for Russia to eat the Ukraine up bit by bit.