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    I think what's most important is the facts.
    1. Nobody is being shelled in Crimea since they annexed to Russia. That's a very positive thing.
    2. Russia has been sending humanitarian aid convoys to eastern Ukraine. I haven't seen any other country doing that.
    3. The sanctions are counterproductive against a country (Russia) that has created a lasting ceasefire in Ukraine. It's not perfect but it is working.
    4. If any other country is sending anything but military aid then please let me know. Because I haven't heard about any country, except Russia, helping those people.

    Imo, the sanctions are not only counterproductive, the are NOT deserved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UhOhXplode View Post
    I think what's most important is the facts.
    1. Nobody is being shelled in Crimea since they annexed to Russia. That's a very positive thing.
    2. Russia has been sending humanitarian aid convoys to eastern Ukraine. I haven't seen any other country doing that.
    3. The sanctions are counterproductive against a country (Russia) that has created a lasting ceasefire in Ukraine. It's not perfect but it is working.
    4. If any other country is sending anything but military aid then please let me know. Because I haven't heard about any country, except Russia, helping those people.

    Imo, the sanctions are not only counterproductive, the are NOT deserved.
    For some reason, there are still armed forces in eastern Ukraine who still feel at war with the Ukrainian army, and who aren't willing to put down their guns. Ceasefire may work for a while, but is it the recipe to stop those forces forever? What can be done about those forces, anyway? Reason them? The last few months showed they cannot be reasoned with any logic or common sense at all. So, is there any other way but the military one to get rid of them? If you think it is, please share one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UhOhXplode View Post
    I think what's most important is the facts.
    3. The sanctions are counterproductive against a country (Russia) that has created a lasting ceasefire in Ukraine. It's not perfect but it is working.
    I don't think it is working, moreover I don't think it was intended to work. The "ceasefire" targets two things:
    1. Elections to Ukrainian Rada. Ukraine needs to stop military actions, at least on paper, to make the elections "lawful"
    2. Western press could stop printing disturbing articles about situation in Ukraine, leaving this situation to be solved "behind the curtains" of publicity.

    In reality fights continue every day, people die every day and hatred grows between two sides, every day.
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    4. If any other country is sending anything but military aid then please let me know. Because I haven't heard about any country, except Russia, helping those people.
    Germany Sends Humanitarian Convoy to Ukraine | World | RIA Novosti
    Власти Украины отправили гуманитарную помощь на Донбасс - Korrespondent.net

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    Quote Originally Posted by UhOhXplode View Post
    Imo, the sanctions are not only counterproductive, the are NOT deserved.
    That is only if you think that sanctions were supposed to motivate Russia to do something different about Ukrainian situation.
    IMO people who approved sanction couldn't care less about Ukraine. When they say that their target is "economical isolation" of Russia - I believe them. They don't like Russia's economy to grow and that's the real reason for the sanctions and Ukraine is just a convenient cover for this.

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