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    Quote Originally Posted by UhOhXplode View Post
    Why should it be our responsibility to police the world? I think the world would be better if it just policed itself.
    You have a point. Though what about keeping promices? After the collapse of USSR Ukraine got rid of its part of Soviet nuclear weapon. USA instead officially guaranteed Ukraine's territorial integrity and inviolability of its borders. USA disarmed us for the promice to protect. Now the promice looks broken.
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    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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    Quote Originally Posted by it-ogo View Post
    You have a point. Though what about keeping promices? After the collapse of USSR Ukraine got rid of its part of Soviet nuclear weapon. USA instead officially guaranteed Ukraine's territorial integrity and inviolability of its borders. USA disarmed us for the promice to protect. Now the promice looks broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by it-ogo View Post
    You have a point. Though what about keeping promices? After the collapse of USSR Ukraine got rid of its part of Soviet nuclear weapon. USA instead officially guaranteed Ukraine's territorial integrity and inviolability of its borders. USA disarmed us for the promice to protect. Now the promice looks broken.
    The USA also officially promised not to expand NATO into Eastern Europe, a promise which they broke pretty much immediately after having made it.

    I don't see how nukes would make any difference in this conflict anyway. But it's rather disturbing that some people seem to think it's worth bringing up.

    From one thing to another. Apparently Russia is going to significantly increase the measly state pensions that old people on Crimea are receiving. I don't see how they can survive on 200 USD per month it seems absolutely impossible unless you have no rent and buy nothing apart from cheap groceries. I was glad to see they will get more money and it's nice that Russia is processing this fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    Apparently Russia is going to significantly increase the measly state pensions that old people on Crimea are receiving. I don't see how they can survive on 200 USD per month it seems absolutely impossible unless you have no rent and buy nothing apart from cheap groceries. I was glad to see they will get more money and it's nice that Russia is processing this fast.
    You see, it's yes and no situation. If you hand out money to people, the first thing to happen is the prices will go up. That would probably be it more or less.

    The real improvement of economy would usually corellate with the improvement in infrastructure which will give a chance to people to produce goods and services. Right now, the infrastructure in Crimea is more or less limited to the seasonal rentals of apartments to the visitors. Maybe also selling some food and stuff the visitors would need for their stay. There is virtually no other popular way of making money. Ukraine was never interested in improving the infrastructure in Crimea and Russia might be able to fill that gap to show the rest of the world what Russia is capable of. (Who mentioned Sochi?)

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