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    It is utopian because it is not implemented...

    It is utopian because it is not implemented anywhere in the world. Communism is and was utopian, too.



    I do not know any state whose government is "based on human rights". Some governments are...
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    I have already replied to a similar "binary"...

    I have already replied to a similar "binary" argument. As soon as there are more Men, its simplicity becomes oversimplification.
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    "Right" and "wrong" are subjective. Use more...

    It can and does in every society.[/quote]

    I am talking about what is correct (right vs. wrong). Yes, bad things can and do happen but that does not make them correct. I think we are arguing...
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    It can and does in every society. So long...

    It can and does in every society.



    So long as "one" is alone or the society grants them.



    Separate. Groups do consist of individuals, but their existence creates a new many-to-many...
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    I am talking about the ability. You were very...

    I am talking about the ability. You were very explicit about the ability, too: "There is nothing a group can do that an idividual cannot."

    Moreover, I find this "right without ability" talk quite...
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    A very simple example: an individual cannot breed...

    This is ridiculous. And obviously false.[/quote]

    What do you mean "obviously false"? Might does not make right.
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    A very simple example: an individual cannot breed offspring. A small...
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    This is ridiculous. And obviously false.

    This is ridiculous. And obviously false.
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    Oh, let's do it the other way around. I and my...

    People can live anyway they want so long as it does not violate the rights of others. If you and your friends want to start a Communist state, go right ahead. But you cannot force anyone to be part...
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    ... which only works so long as there are exactly...

    ... which only works so long as there are exactly A and B and nobody else. As soon as there is C, it becomes tricky. And it becomes a joke when there are 150 millions of those not contradicting one...
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    I like this impersonal "banning" of yours. So who...

    No, banning his plays is.[/quote]

    I like this impersonal "banning" of yours. So who did that "banning"? I hope you're not going to reiterate "evil Stalin did". Then again, since you have skipped...
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    So he helped him once. Is the lack of help...

    So he helped him once. Is the lack of help afterwards "suppressing"?



    Correct. Personally, again, I found this one shallow -- less shallow than the subsequent movie, though. Come to think of...
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    The message that you replied to did not have such...

    The message that you replied to did not have such questions. Learn to answer questions and not questions to answers to questions.



    I recall that he developed a sort of personal problem with the...
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    Re: Russia

    What does that have to do with creativity? Hockey? Ask me if I care about hockey.

    But you're trying to distort even that. Military service is not "selectively" compulsory in Russia. If there are...
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    You were replying to my message that mentioned...

    You asked: 'How was creativity disallowed in the USSR?'. As far as I can see, the 'disallowing' of creativity is suppression.[/quote]

    You were replying to my message that mentioned Sakharov. In...
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    You made me laugh so hard I almost choked. No...

    You made me laugh so hard I almost choked. No really! The very doctrine of "Human Rights" is ideology and nothing but ideology.
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    Did I ever ask anything about suppression? In...

    No, of course he didn't. He did, however, find himself in Gorky/Nizhny Novgorod against his will.

    Does that not constitute suppression?
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    Did I ever ask anything about suppression? In...
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    Why, if you don't mind? Because the name of that...

    I'll take their word over your 'experience', if you don't mind.[/quote]

    Why, if you don't mind? Because the name of that organization is more democratic? Or because the speculations of that...
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    Re: Russia

    It's not that it is disallowed, it is stiffled.

    If everyone recieves equal share of the nation's resources, there is no motivation to try hard.[/quote]

    Why am I trying hard here to help you and...
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    Re: Russia

    What you are saying is but idiocy. How was creativity disallowed in the USSR?



    Right. So the party says, for example, "this man must orbit the Earth", and the designers, having no creativity...
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    That is not quite correct. It was the...

    That is not quite correct. It was the conventional arms race that destroyed the USSR. The tanks, the aircraft, the spacecraft, the ships and submarines. Under the same MAD doctrine none of that was...
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