Quote Originally Posted by TronDD
A group and an individual both have exactly the same right to breed. Obviously, only the group (possibly) has the ability, but that doesn't allow them any more rights.
I am talking about the ability. You were very explicit about the ability, too: "There is nothing a group can do that an idividual cannot."

Moreover, I find this "right without ability" talk quite pointless. Who needs a right that can never be enforced?

Besides, a group might restrict some rights of an individual. For example, the right to "move freely" (for a criminal).