Thread: Why I love (and hate) dating Russian men (article)

Originally Posted by Hanna

So there were girls playing with trucks and power tools, and boys playing with dolls and toy kitchens.

Great idea! Children should develop their imagination and handicraft to provide dolls with some decent weapons and trucks with some nice outfit.

I hated playing with dolls. My favorite toys were rocket ships and I also loved collecting model horses.

Originally Posted by Deborski

I hated playing with dolls. My favorite toys were rocket ships and I also loved collecting model horses.

Well like I said, the point is to let the kids play as they like

Here is a story about it, and they bring up how the Swedish nurseries were extremely close to banning the words "she/he" and his/hers, using a gender neutral combination word that they had made up.
http://www.slate.fr/story/56183/hen-...re-genre-suede As a national policy!!

All kids essentially attend these nurseries from ca 2 - 6, so that would change a whole generation
Can you sympathise that from my perspective I think this is a sort of national hysteria that has gone out of all proportions...? That's why I come out stronger on the other side.

I wouldn't bother with this issue if things were "normal". For example the hysteria on this has not hit England (yet) but it's probably a matter of time.

I am of the opinion that the genders were meant to complement each other, not compete with each other.
So at the same time as promoting extreme ideals like I mentioned above, they put people like Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus and Madonna on TV supposedly as ideals. Who use their bodies and sexuality to sell music. While strip clubs and prostitution is legal.
I think it's contradictory, illogical, confusing and psychologically unhealthy.

Originally Posted by Hanna

Hen: le nouveau pronom neutre qui fait polémique en Suède | Slate

TFr, DR

Originally Posted by Hanna

out of all proportions...? That's why I come out stronger on the other side.

How many people think the same, do you think?
I am afraid Swedes could die out in 100 years, and will be replaced with Mozambicans, if a mess of such kind will continue.

Originally Posted by maxmixiv

How many people think the same, do you think?
I am afraid Swedes could die out in 100 years, and will be replaced with Mozambicans, if a mess of such kind will continue.

The people in the countryside are not hit by this hysteria yet (gender, immigration, homosexuality etc) particularly in the North. And the Swedish speaking internet is galore with immigrant bashing, because media won't say a word about any of the associated problems, like criminality and endless dependency on welfare. Media will not under any circumstances deviate from their official opinions/

For example if three refugees from Somalia rapes a Swedish girl, media will write that it was "three tall men in their early 20s". They are not allowed to say anything about the person's nationality. Interestingly enough that does not apply to Germans, Italians, Russians, Bulgarians etc who commit a crime in Sweden. But if the person is for instance, Somali, Iraqi, Kurdish or Uzbek, then nobody must know!

A tremendous irony occurs when politically correct media is torn in two directions when they are facing a news story about an immigrant family that has "reactionary" values. For example, they ban their teenage daughters from having a boyfriend, or spanked their child who was naughty. It goes against their principles to write anything negative about immigrants (against the spirit of "multiculturalism") but at the same time they want to object to the politically incorrect values of many immigrants. Usually they ignore the whole story, and people find out on blogs etc. You wouldn't believe the media climate in Sweden if I told you, seriously. There was probably greater variety in opinion in the USSR media, I am not joking. It's been like this all my life, although he winds have turned a bit.

This is one issue where 14Russian will not contradict me, I think. And just to finish of the irony, then the same papers or TV show will then rant on about bout the lack of freedom of press in Russia.

It's very sad, to think of a country that had almost NO serious problem (in my childhood) and then naively "imported" them, and created them. Finland has always throughout history been quite a bit poorer than Sweden, I think as of about 10 years back, it's richer and more successful. They had almost no immigration and are not fanatical about the politically correct ideals.

[end of Hanna's rant against this incredibly frustrating topic]

Originally Posted by Hanna

The people in the countryside are not hit by this hysteria yet (gender, immigration, homosexuality etc) particularly in the North. And the Swedish speaking internet is galore with immigrant bashing, because media won't say a word about any of the associated problems, like criminality and endless dependency on welfare. Media will not under any circumstances deviate from their official opinions/

For example if three refugees from Somalia rapes a Swedish girl, media will write that it was "three tall men in their early 20s". They are not allowed to say anything about the person's nationality. Interestingly enough that does not apply to Germans, Italians, Russians, Bulgarians etc who commit a crime in Sweden. But if the person is for instance, Somali, Iraqi, Kurdish or Uzbek, then nobody must know!

A tremendous irony occurs when politically correct media is torn in two directions when they are facing a news story about an immigrant family that has "reactionary" values. For example, they ban their teenage daughters from having a boyfriend, or spanked their child who was naughty. It goes against their principles to write anything negative about immigrants (against the spirit of "multiculturalism") but at the same time they want to object to the politically incorrect values of many immigrants. Usually they ignore the whole story, and people find out on blogs etc. You wouldn't believe the media climate in Sweden if I told you, seriously. There was probably greater variety in opinion in the USSR media, I am not joking. It's been like this all my life, although he winds have turned a bit.

This is one issue where 14Russian will not contradict me, I think. And just to finish of the irony, then the same papers or TV show will then rant on about bout the lack of freedom of press in Russia.

It's very sad, to think of a country that had almost NO serious problem (in my childhood) and then naively "imported" them, and created them. Finland has always throughout history been quite a bit poorer than Sweden, I think as of about 10 years back, it's richer and more successful. They had almost no immigration and are not fanatical about the politically correct ideals.

[end of Hanna's rant against this incredibly frustrating topic]

By the way, even in the country your hate for is incredible (the United States), the media doesn't usually have issues with depicting aliens the way they deserve.

My nephew -- now 6-and-a-half -- loves his construction vehicles, trains, and absolutely everything Lego-related. But when he was a few years younger, one of his favorite toys was a "play kitchen" that his grandmother gave him -- he would spend hours taking pretend food out of the refrigerator, stirring it in a big pot with a wooden spoon, or cooking it in the microwave. (His favorite recipe: "Суп из футбэгов", or "Hacky-sack soup" -- after his dad brought home a large bag full of corporate-branded hacky-sacks from a business convention!)

So anyway, he enjoyed playing with the "girly" kitchen for a year or two, but then he just decided that trucks, trains, and Legos were more fun.

You can see a selection of images from the Swedish toy-catalog here, and honestly they don't look that strange or radical to me -- perhaps because most of the children are quite young. (I admit that, to me, it might seem like "forced political correctness" if the catalog showed a 10-year-old boy playing with a Barbie doll. But a 3-year-old boy playing with a toy vacuum cleaner is no big deal.)

Originally Posted by Throbert McGee

My nephew -- now 6-and-a-half -- loves his construction vehicles, trains, and absolutely everything Lego-related. But when he was a few years younger, one of his favorite toys was a "play kitchen" that his grandmother gave him -- he would spend hours taking pretend food out of the refrigerator, stirring it in a big pot with a wooden spoon, or cooking it in the microwave. (His favorite recipe: "Суп из футбэгов", or "Hacky-sack soup" -- after his dad brought home a large bag full of corporate-branded hacky-sacks from a business convention!)

So anyway, he enjoyed playing with the "girly" kitchen for a year or two, but then he just decided that trucks, trains, and Legos were more fun.

You can see a selection of images from the Swedish toy-catalog here, and honestly they don't look that strange or radical to me -- perhaps because most of the children are quite young. (I admit that, to me, it might seem like "forced political correctness" if the catalog showed a 10-year-old boy playing with a Barbie doll. But a 3-year-old boy playing with a toy vacuum cleaner is no big deal.)

Men use vacuum cleaners and men cook. I think it's silly to label such equipment as "feminine." Even a sexist guy who believes that cooking and cleaning is "women's work" has to learn how to do those things when he's living alone and single, no? I dunno about forced political correctness. To me, showing a boy using a vacuum cleaner or a toy kitchen doesn't scream of "political correctness" but of reality. There are lots of great male chefs and not all of them are gay

On the other hand, I did feel like I was being forced to subscribe to a certain view of what being "female" is all about when, growing up, every toy commercial I ever saw depicted girls playing with dolls, or cooking sets. So I dunno if a commercial which portrays the opposite of that is forcing "political correctness" on anyone or if it's just daring to go contrary to the worn out, tired "status quo" which has remained unchallenged most of my life.

For example, I found this non-traditional commercial very refreshing and long overdue!

Originally Posted by Alex_krsk

If someone tells you how to pee, the best way will be to pee on them!
I hope they never get that absurd law passed... Not only does it have nothing to do with gender equality, it conflicts with The Human Rights Declaration and such.

Originally Posted by Eric C.

If someone tells you how to pee, the best way will be to pee on them!
I hope they never get that absurd law passed... Not only does it have nothing to do with gender equality, it conflicts with The Human Rights Declaration and such.

The sad thing is that finally those laws (and some even worse) will be passed gradually all over the EU. Because people who have no obligations to their families no responsiblility for their children no ethnic or cultural traditions. People who only interested in their safty and wealth. People who have sex mostly for fun with no mutual responsibility with the partner. Are perfect consumers easily manipulated on what to buy and how much to loan from banks.

Originally Posted by Alex_krsk

The sad thing is that finally those laws (and some even worse) will be passed gradually all over the EU. Because people who have no obligations to their families no responsiblility for their children no ethnic or cultural traditions. People who only interested in their safty and wealth. People who have sex mostly for fun with no mutual responsibility with the partner. Are perfect consumers easily manipulated on what to buy and how much to loan from banks.

Man, that's bullsh*t commie talks. The word "responsibility" scares me off. I'm rather interested in my or my relatives' safety and wealth than any random person's. I have sex for fun mostly, and so do the girls I have it with. I like spending the money I've made the way I like. BUT I WOULD FREAKING HATE BEING TOLD HOW TO PEE!!!

Originally Posted by Eric C.

Man, that's bullsh*t commie talks. The word "responsibility" scares me off. I'm rather interested in my or my relatives' safety and wealth than any random person's. I have sex for fun mostly, and so do the girls I have it with. I like spending money I've made the way I like. BUT I WOULD FREAKING HATE BEING TOLD HOW TO PEE!!!

Commie talks are what's going on in the EU piarlament NACH-MAUER EUROPA

Originally Posted by Eric C.

I like spending money I've made the way I like.

Do you really believe you spend your money the way YOU like ?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

BUT I WOULD FREAKING HATE BEING TOLD HOW TO PEE!!!

Unfortunately you'll have to do things the way you are told. You'll just have no choise.

Originally Posted by Alex_krsk

Video: Равенство полов: мужчины должны писать сидя?

Years ago, I was having a drunken conversation in a gay bar with two lesbian friends -- let's call them Alice and Beth. The conversation went like this...

ALICE: I know we're supposed to be the "LGBT community, but honestly, I just don't understand transsexuals. Would you ever want to change your sex?
ROB: No, I like being a man. Hooray for penises!
BETH: And I like being a woman. Hooray for vaginas!
ALICE: That's what I mean -- I like my body-parts, too. Why would I want to change them??
ROB: Although... if we aren't talking in scientific terms... I suppose that if Dumbledore offered me a magical instant sex-change potion that would turn me into a woman for just 24 hours, I might try it out of curiosity.
BETH: Me too, I guess. As long as I would magically turn back to a woman after a day.
ALICE: Yeah, could be fun to be a guy for 24 hours.
ROB: So, what would you DO if you had a penis for 24 hours?
[long pause]
ALICE: I dunno.
BETH: That's easy! I'd take the magic pill, then go off into the forest and run around all day marking my territory on trees and pissing my name in the snow!!

Originally Posted by Throbert McGee

Years ago, I was having a drunken conversation in a gay bar with two lesbian friends -- let's call them Alice and Beth. The conversation went like this...

ALICE: I know we're supposed to be the "LGBT community, but honestly, I just don't understand transsexuals. Would you ever want to change your sex?
ROB: No, I like being a man. Hooray for penises!
BETH: And I like being a woman. Hooray for vaginas!
ALICE: That's what I mean -- I like my body-parts, too. Why would I want to change them??
ROB: Although... if we aren't talking in scientific terms... I suppose that if Dumbledore offered me a magical instant sex-change potion that would turn me into a woman for just 24 hours, I might try it out of curiosity.
BETH: Me too, I guess. As long as I would magically turn back to a woman after a day.
ALICE: Yeah, could be fun to be a guy for 24 hours.
ROB: So, what would you DO if you had a penis for 24 hours?
[long pause]
ALICE: I dunno.
BETH: That's easy! I'd take the magic pill, then go off into the forest and run around all day marking my territory on trees and pissing my name in the snow!!

Reminds me of a joke...


God asks Adam and Eve to come over to his place, and when they do so, he tells them, "I've got two gifts for you, but you must decide which one each of you is taking" They say, "ok", and God says, "the first gift is the ability to pee upright"; Adam instantly goes mad, starts waving his arms and screaming "I've been dreaming of it my whole life!!!", so God says, "ok, you can pee upright now"; and Adam starts running around everywhere and peeing on everything; God and Eve look at that insanity, when Eve says, "so, God, what's the second gift?" And God says, "Brain! My second gift is brain! But I now have to give brain to Adam too, or I'll have everything here pissed on!"

hi all

at first, when i saw the title of this topic, i curious to see whats inside, because currently im involve with a Russian guy
anyway, i read all the article and comments here, turn out to an interesting discussion about feminism

its all new things for me lol as i always think that every person (regardless their nationality, gender or anything) are same and also different in their own way but its interesting to see how other people thinks about certain topic