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    Have you guys seen what happened?

    "На 90-й минуте матча «Крылья Советов» - «Анжи» (0:3) в защитника махачкалинцев Роберто Карлоса с трибуны кинули банан.

    ВИДЕО СКАНДАЛЬНОГО ЭПИЗОДА СМОТРИТЕ ЗДЕСЬ

    Футболист в знак протеста ушел с поля. Сел на скамейку запасных и накрылся полотенцем.

    Напомним, что в начале сезона Роберто Карлосу уже пришлось испытать подобные эмоции. Тогда в Санкт-Петербурге в рамках второго тура во время поднятия государственного флага РФ бразильцу протянул банан неизвестный, которого найти так и не удалось. За тот инцидент «Зенит» был оштрафован на 300 тыс. рублей. "


    I also felt outraged for him.

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    Ah, so he was black and it is because bananas are originally from Africa as well as black people? Well, if someone in Afrika will give Russian guy a bottle of vodka, I doubt it will be taken as abusion, unless it is a vodka of extremely bad quality.
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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    Quote Originally Posted by it-ogo View Post
    Well, if someone in Afrika will give Russian guy a bottle of vodka, I doubt it will be taken as abusion, unless it is a vodka of extremely bad quality.
    Well on the one hand, I see the connection Africa > Banana > Roberto Carlos > mixed race guy..
    (but it is actually quite far fetched, and bananas are just..... silly! ) And Roberto Carlos is not even particularly black, is he? He looks a bit like a Southern European person to me. Greek maybe.

    But Russians and vodka is the sort of example I was thinking of, but I couldn't think of a good example.

    And is it racism on football matches, when the fans from other countries make the Nazi salute and shout "Sieg Heil" to the Germans? It happens every time they have an international game.

    Personally I think both the bananas and the hitler salutes are tasteless, and the vodka would be an expensive joke.

    People who can't behave like adults and respect a professional player like Roberto Carlos should be banned from games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    Well on the one hand, I see the connection Africa > Banana > Roberto Carlos > mixed race guy..
    (but it is actually quite far fetched, and bananas are just..... silly! ) And Roberto Carlos is not even particularly black, is he? He looks a bit like a Southern European person to me. Greek maybe.
    Then I don't get the point at all.
    Of course people who throw fruits to the football players should be penaltied if caught. That's all. No connection to the topic.
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabriciocarraro View Post

    "На 90-й минуте матча «Крылья Советов» - «Анжи» (0:3) в защитника махачкалинцев Роберто Карлоса с трибуны кинули банан.

    Футболист в знак протеста ушел с поля. Сел на скамейку запасных и накрылся полотенцем.
    One more point. That is a guy who is making sport show, a star. He is expected by public to be "a real man". In that situation he had several options to earn respect from simple public. He could take a banana and make with it something funny, he could throw a banana back, he could show a middle finger or a fist to the banana thrower, he could just ignore the situation - that would be good enough. Instead he behaved like a spoiled child.

    After that he must be ready to expect much more bananas from his former fans, I think.
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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    Quote Originally Posted by it-ogo View Post
    He could take a banana and make with it something funny, he could throw a banana back, he could show a middle finger or a fist to the banana thrower, he could just ignore the situation - that would be good enough. Instead he behaved like a spoiled child.
    If you'd watch the video you'd see that he actually trew it back before he left the stadium.
    Please, correct my mistakes, except for the cases I misspell something on purpose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77 View Post
    If you'd watch the video you'd see that he actually trew it back before he left the stadium.
    I can't watch video from where I am now. So first he did right second he did wrong.
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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