Thread: Controversial Problems in Russian and Some Other Societies

Originally Posted by Paul G.

Мне не стыдно сейчас и вряд ли будет стыдно когда-нибудь, поскольку моя позиция не ангажирована. В первую очередь подростки-геи кончают жизнь самоубийством не потому, что они испытывают давление, а потому что они чувствуют свою ненормальность, что переносится тяжело в этом возрасте. Они испытывают психологические проблемы, но помощи им ждать неоткуда. По этой же причине высок риск самоубийств среди инвалидов, смертельно больных людей, сумасшедших и т.д. Хотя, конечно, давление на подростков-геев в каких-то конкретных случаях может иметь место, но это некритично для статистики.

"Гонения на геев могут закончиться волной самоубийств среди подростков" - могут. Только виноваты в этом сами геи, вернее, та неумная их часть, которая противопоставляет себя обществу и пытается заработать политический, экономический или социальный капитал, втягивая в проблематику детей и подростков. Подросткам нужно помогать, я не втягивать их в борьбу в виде заложников.

На самом же деле среди геев просто-напросто большой процент психически больных людей (и вообще людей с психологическими проблемами), бОльший, чем среди гетеросексуальной группы. Этим объясняются и склонность к суициду, и прочие вещи. Вообще, достаточно посмотреть на любой гей-парад, присмотреться внимательно к активистам ЛГБТ движения - и всё станет ясно.

Оставь надежду, сюда входящий...

Лампада, удаление сообщения не решит проблемы. Это всё равно, что прятать голову в песок, как страус.

Sodom and Gomorrah? Nazis? Really?

Jeeze, what happened to this place? There are some truly vile people on this forum these days.

Originally Posted by scotcher

Sodom and Gomorrah? Nazis? Really?

Jeeze, what happened to this place? There are some truly vile people on this forum these days.

Are you saying Christians are vile? Ok, that's your prerogative. Or between you and God, I should say.
Nobody in this thread claimed to be a Nazi.

If you ask me, it's tyranny to expect everybody to love homosexuals and support gay pride parades.
And to villify those that don't, in the name of political correctness.
All we are saying here, is that people should keep their sexuality private. Including gays!
It's a private matter, not something to go and rub into other people's faces when they happen to be out shopping or sitting at a cafe, as the Gay pride parade does.

Little children should not have to look at people in penis costumes or and Catholics should not have to look a transsexual "nuns" with crucifixes next to dildos and similar vulgar, tasteless and antisocial displays that are common in Gay pride parades. It's offensive!

Originally Posted by Hanna

Are you saying Christians are vile? Ok, that's your prerogative. Or between you and God, I should say.
Nobody in this thread claimed to be a Nazi.

If you ask me, it's tyranny to expect everybody to love homosexuals and support gay pride parades.
And to villify those that don't, in the name of political correctness.
All we are saying here, is that people should keep their sexuality private. Including gays!
It's a private matter, not something to go and rub into other people's faces when they happen to be out shopping or sitting at a cafe, as the Gay pride parade does.

Little children should not have to look at people in penis costumes or and Catholics should not have to look a transsexual "nuns" with crucifixes next to dildos and similar vulgar, tasteless and antisocial displays that are common in Gay pride parades. It's offensive!

You used Svenska Dagbladet? LOL You have no credibility. You are a good troll, though.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

You used Svenska Dagbladet? LOL You have no credibility. You are a good troll, though.

She was just born at the wrong time; her views would be perfect if she was living in the 1930s - 1940s...

Originally Posted by Hanna

Are you saying Christians are vile? Ok, that's your prerogative. Or between you and God, I should say.
Nobody in this thread claimed to be a Nazi.

If you ask me, it's tyranny to expect everybody to love homosexuals and support gay pride parades.
And to villify those that don't, in the name of political correctness.
All we are saying here, is that people should keep their sexuality private. Including gays!
It's a private matter, not something to go and rub into other people's faces when they happen to be out shopping or sitting at a cafe, as the Gay pride parade does.

Little children should not have to look at people in penis costumes or and Catholics should not have to look a transsexual "nuns" with crucifixes next to dildos and similar vulgar, tasteless and antisocial displays that are common in Gay pride parades. It's offensive!

Hanna, is it really you? I am lost... Could it be that somebody's kidnapped your nickname?

Originally Posted by Lampada

Hanna, is it really you? I am lost... Could it be that somebody's kidnapped your nickname?

You've been blind for years, and now you can see! Congrats?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

You've been blind for years, and now you can see! Congrats?

You might be right, I guess. I seldom have enough time or interest to read everything closely.
But, please, everybody stay calm and, please, refrain from personal insults.
As always, most all personal ideological positions is accepted here.

Originally Posted by Lampada

Hanna, is it really you? I am lost... Could it be that somebody's kidnapped your nickname?

No, no it's still me. And I don't hate gay people, and I don't wish anything bad on them at all.

I just don't like the way it's going in Northern Europe at the moment, where homosexuality is almost promoted.
I don't think anyone can imagine how extreme it is, until you see it yourself.

Gay parades, gay nights at clubs and restaurants.
You turn on TV and on one channel a gay program hosts is interviewing a transvestite. On the next channel, a film about a teenager discovering they are gay and having softcore gay sex. Open a paper, and there's a story where yet another celebrity explains how fulfilled and happy they are as gay
This is the reality in Sweden and the UK is moving fast in that direction.

I am just too socially conservative, and it's a religious thing as well.

All I'm saying is that people should be more private about their sexuality. Not just gays, everybody!

I am just as much against heterosexual pornography which I think is offensive too, towards us women, and it turns men into pathetic slaves of their lusts. I'm just as much against that.

I am strongly against anybody persecuting gay people. But I'm also against the gay lifestyle being constantly flaunted to people like me who don't want to know.

Am I a horrible person because I don't want this outside my window like I had last year...

I agree. If will be as little as possible information on same-sex marriages or gay parades, this anomaly will go away by itself. Any idea need to cultivate otherwise there will be no result.