Thread: Polskii National Anthem

Originally Posted by al

Originally Posted by carperdiem

and 'jąwszy' is a form of 'take' (only guessing, couldn't find them in a dictionary, and they appear to be not very popular on the Internet... anyway, 'jąwszy się' sounds similar to Russian "взявшийся", and it made sense in some contexts. But I might be absolutely wrong ). Could anyone confirm/refute this?

jąwszy is a short form of "wziąwszy" = having taken

Originally Posted by pernat

Originally Posted by al

Originally Posted by carperdiem

and 'jąwszy' is a form of 'take' (only guessing, couldn't find them in a dictionary, and they appear to be not very popular on the Internet... anyway, 'jąwszy się' sounds similar to Russian "взявшийся", and it made sense in some contexts. But I might be absolutely wrong ). Could anyone confirm/refute this?

jąwszy is a short form of "wziąwszy" = having taken

Yes!

Originally Posted by al

Originally Posted by pernat

Originally Posted by al

Originally Posted by carperdiem

and 'jąwszy' is a form of 'take' (only guessing, couldn't find them in a dictionary, and they appear to be not very popular on the Internet... anyway, 'jąwszy się' sounds similar to Russian "взявшийся", and it made sense in some contexts. But I might be absolutely wrong ). Could anyone confirm/refute this?

jąwszy is a short form of "wziąwszy" = having taken

Yes!

sounds however like an exception as slavic languages did not adopt short forms (except for "soviet" russian - e.g. " ком-со-мол ")

I've got something to console Moscals with. (By A.Mickiewicz)


DO PRZYJACI

Prep

Do you actually want to HEAR the anthem?
I could look for some mp3 file for you, if that's what you asked for. I'm not sure cause the word "vypočuť" doesn't ring any bell to me.

Originally Posted by kamka

Do you actually want to HEAR the anthem?
I could look for some mp3 file for you, if that's what you asked for. I'm not sure cause the word "vypočuť" doesn't ring any bell to me.

Slovo "vypočuť" znamen

Po polsku "hear" to "słyszeć".
postaram się znależć mp3 jak najszybciej

Originally Posted by kamka

Po polsku "hear" to "słyszeć".
postaram się znależć mp3 jak najszybciej

"słyszeć" , to mne znie ako po ČESKY: "slyšet" .

Je až hrozn

[quote=Pejko]

Originally Posted by kamka

Po polsku "hear" to "słyszeć".
postaram się znależć mp3 jak najszybciej

"słyszeć" , to mne znie ako po ČESKY: "slyšet" .

Je až hrozn

I am sorry I am speakin only with myself, but there is a link to listen:
http://www.national-anthems.net/coun...ndex.php?id=PL

or c the page http://www.national-anthems.net at all!

Originally Posted by pernat

Jeszcze Polska nie zginela

A zginet muje

Originally Posted by pernat

What does it literally mean "хохол" and "пшек"?
"кацап" is clear to me

"Пшек" - from very frequent sounds in Polish language.
There are too many words begin with "prze....."

"Хохол" - A sort of hair style. "Чуб".

Originally Posted by pernat

"кацап" is clear to me

Sorry but it is not clear to me
У Даля есть намёки.
http://slovari.yandex.ru/art.xml?art=da ... /60400.htm
http://slovari.yandex.ru/art.xml?art=da ... /58700.htm

Originally Posted by Pejko

I am sorry I am speaking only with myself, but there is a link to listen:
http://www.national-anthems.net/coun...ndex.php?id=PL

or see the page http://www.national-anthems.net at all!

Dzękuje bardzo za hiperłącze!

Originally Posted by Pravit

The Polish word for "Russian" is "Moskal"?

Polish people have many expressions referring to Russians."Moskal" -someone from Moscow comes from times of Polish partition.Someone mentioned a part of poem by Mickiewicz-in his times(XIX century) usage of this expression in pejorative sens was very common-it was meaning "betrayer, someone who abuses power and persecutes Polish people".Later appeared expression "Bolszewik"-bolshevic-in times of the Russian Revolution and it signified "barbaric, revolutionary, cruel, ignorant" as bolshevic soldiers during invasion on some parts of Poland had destroyed numerous estates (like Krasiczyn castle) in a very barbaric way-for example they demolished ancient libraries in castles using wood from them to set a fire inside a ball room and so on.
Sometimes it is used even nowadays. For Germans in turn we sometimes use expression "Szwab" or "Prusak" also coming from times of partitions and we mean by this "over-disciplined, following orders without thinking,stupid,blindly stucking to formal rules".

Originally Posted by al

Originally Posted by carperdiem

Niemiec, Moskal nie osiędzie,
Nim jąwszy pałasza,
Hasłem naszym zgoda będzie,
I Ojczyzna nasza.

Something bad about Germans and Russians

Actually, the lines were:

Niemiec, Moskal nie osiędzie,
Gdy jąwszy pałasza,
Hasłem wszystkich zgoda będzie
I ojczyzna nasza.

Any Polish experts out there? From what I could find out, 'osiędzie' is a form of verb 'subside', and 'jąwszy' is a form of 'take' (only guessing, couldn't find them in a dictionary, and they appear to be not very popular on the Internet... anyway, 'jąwszy się' sounds similar to Russian "взявшийся", and it made sense in some contexts. But I might be absolutely wrong ). Could anyone confirm/refute this?

The whole problem with Polish anthem is inversion of sentences-commonly used to make poems and songs to rhyme well.
This lines should be translated as:

Germans and Russian will not settle down(here),
if after taking out our sabers( pałasz is a kind of a saber) we all will take for our banner agreement and our homeland

Without inversion it would go like this(more or less of course):

Niemiec, Moskal nie osiądą tutaj
Gdy/jeśli wyjąwszy pałasze,
wszyscy przyjmą za hasło zgodę i naszą ojczyznę.