Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Russia's National Anthem

  1. #1
    Подающий надежды оратор
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Fredericksburg, Virginia
    Posts
    26
    Rep Power
    11

    Russia's National Anthem

    i found out a couple of years ago that russia went back to the old soviet anthem, but with different words. i'm wondering what was the basis behind that since obviously the soviet union is no more. from what i've read, it's said that the old anthem had no words and i guess was "less inspiring" compared to the soviet one. i wonder if the older people, when they hear it, still sing the old words instead of the new ones, hehe.
    Двери закрываются, а в почтовом ящике. Два письма теряются от другого мальчика.

  2. #2
    Почётный участник
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Соединенные Штаты Америки
    Posts
    111
    Rep Power
    11
    I sing the old words, they were the first Russian words I learned! Союз нерушимый республик свободных
    Сплотила навеки Великая русь...... ahhh.. such pride for our Soviet motherland... er.. um.... I mean Federation.... yes.. he he.. Federation.
    I do not understand very well the best way of understanding ..

  3. #3
    Почтенный гражданин
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Brooklyn, NY
    Posts
    183
    Rep Power
    11

    anthem

    Не помните ли вы всех слов старого гимна, Carpe? Был бы интересно читать. Или, если вам слишком скучно написать весь гимн, не знает ли кто веб-сайт, где слова написанные?

    Кстати, как carpe diem по-русски (хватайте день?) И зачем у вас буква "r" между carpe и diem, если это не секрет?

  4. #4
    Почётный участник
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Соединенные Штаты Америки
    Posts
    111
    Rep Power
    11
    И зачем у вас буква "r" между carpe и diem, если это не секрет?
    I was WAITIng for someone to ask. And now, unfortunately I must tell. Two years of selling used cars taught me many things, including the art of bad puns. Used to be I'd have a dealer plate and part o' my pay would be the driving of a new automobile every day... thus... welll.... car-per-diem. It is just an old chat handle that has stuck with me.

    Now... To Things of Great importance. Our Great Patriotic Hymn: Here she is!

    ГОСУДАРСТВЕННЫЙ ГИМН СОЮЗА СОВЕТСКИХ
    СОЦИАЛИСТИЧЕСКИХ РЕСПУБЛИК

    Союз нерушимый республик свободных
    Сплотила навеки Великая русь
    Да здравствует созданный волей народов
    Единый, могучий Советский Союз!

    Chorus: Славься, Отечество наше свободное,
    Дружбы народов надежный оплот!
    Партия Ленина - сила народная
    Нас к торжеству коммунизма ведет!

    Сквозь грозы сияло нам солнце свободы,
    И Ленин великий нам путь озарил:
    На правое дело он поднял народы,
    на труд и на подвиги нас вдохновил!

    Chorus

    В победе бессмертных идеи коммунизма
    Мы видим грядущее нашей страны,
    И красному знамени славной Отчизны
    Мы будем всегда беззаветно верны!

    Chorus
    I do not understand very well the best way of understanding ..

  5. #5
    Завсегдатай Scorpio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Moscow, Russia
    Posts
    1,505
    Rep Power
    13
    Just to make comparison, here is the new anthem:


    Россия - священная наша держава!
    Россия - любимая наша страна!
    Могучая воля, великая слава,
    Твое достояние на все времена.

    Припев:

    Славься, Отечество наше свободное -
    Братских народов союз вековой,
    Предками данная мудрость народная,
    Славься страна! Мы гордимся тобой!

    От южных полей до полярного края
    Раскинулись наши леса и моря.
    Одна ты на свете! Одна ты такая!
    Хранимая Богом родная страна.

    Припев.

    Широкий простор для мечты и для жизни,
    Грядущее нам открывают года.
    Нам силу дает наша верность Отчизне.
    Так было, так есть и так будет всегда!

    Припев.

    Славься, Отечество наше свободное -
    Братских народов союз вековой,
    Предками данная мудрость народная,
    Славься страна! Мы гордимся тобой!


    Not many words are changed.
    Кр. -- сестр. тал.

  6. #6
    Властелин
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Invalid City!
    Posts
    1,352
    Rep Power
    13
    My wife doesn't even know the words to the new one, and she was only in her early teens when the USSR went the way of the dodo, so she's had plenty of time to learn them if she'd been so inclined.

    Her theory is that there's a cultural unwillingness by Russians of her parents' generation to address the fact that things have changed. Communism went out with a whimper rather than a bang, so they were never forced (by events) to re-evaluate anything. Having been brought up and lived their entire lives under the communists, and never known anything else, they're just not able (or willing) to discard that legacy. Kind of a society in denial deal.

    Personally, I just reckon it's because the old words just sound better That and the fact that you were expected to know the words under the communists, so everyone learned them, but are free to ignore the new one if you so wish, and lots of people do.

  7. #7
    Почётный участник
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Соединенные Штаты Америки
    Posts
    111
    Rep Power
    11
    Don't f@#k with Shostikovich.
    I do not understand very well the best way of understanding ..

  8. #8
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Posts
    1,607
    Rep Power
    12
    As an atheist I cannot possibly accept the line "Хранимая Богом родная страна." There should be no religion in a secular society's anthem, period.
    Also, I cannot listen to the line "Широкий простор для мечты и для жизни" without peeing myself with laughter.
    Show yourself - destroy our fears - release your mask

  9. #9
    Почтенный гражданин
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Амстелвэйн, Нидерланды
    Posts
    658
    Rep Power
    11
    Yah well, but are you forced to sing it? It's a completely different biscuit (never mind) when even non-christians are required, e.g. in court, to swear by the bible, as in America...
    Army Anti-Strapjes
    Nay, mats jar tripes
    Jasper is my Tartan
    I am a trans-Jert spy
    Jerpty Samaritans
    Pijams are tyrants
    Jana Sperm Tit Arsy

  10. #10
    Почтенный гражданин
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    413
    Rep Power
    11
    Don't f@#k with Shostikovich.
    Why not? You did. Should be Shostakovich/Шостакович .
    А если отнять еще одну?

  11. #11
    Почтенный гражданин
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Brooklyn, NY
    Posts
    183
    Rep Power
    11

    thanks

    молодцы!! герои социалистического труда!

    thanks for the words!!

    Putting new words to old music has a rich history. Nothing wrong with that in principle, eh?? I guess it's just a matter of Which new words.

    On the subject of anthems, I can't stand the star spangled banner, musically or textually. Altough you just don't hear the word spangled enough these days. I'd like to see a pepper spangled omelet on a menu.

    A different car every day, car per?? That's the way to make time with the ladies, huh?

  12. #12
    Почётный участник
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Соединенные Штаты Америки
    Posts
    111
    Rep Power
    11
    even non-christians are required, e.g. in court, to swear by the bible, as in America..
    Just so you know, this is no longer true. Now you simply say: "You swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth." With your hand facing forward(which actually originated from the times when they used to brand the palms of criminals..)

    Anyways, they probably still do it in the damn cheesy ass movies. Just remember, a movie is a movie.
    I do not understand very well the best way of understanding ..

  13. #13
    JJ
    JJ is offline
    Властелин
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Ural, Russia
    Posts
    1,390
    Rep Power
    13
    Quote Originally Posted by VendingMachine
    As an atheist I cannot possibly accept the line "Хранимая Богом родная страна." There should be no religion in a secular society's anthem, period.
    Me too. So I don't care for new text, I don't want to learn the new one and I hope in a case when I need to sing the anthem aloud it won't be my solo...
    Gib immer 100% bei der Arbeit: 12% am Montag, 23% am Dienstag, 40% am Mittwoch, 20% am Donnerstag, 5% am Freitag ...

  14. #14
    Подающий надежды оратор
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Fredericksburg, Virginia
    Posts
    26
    Rep Power
    11
    ugh, i think the star spangled banner is old fashioned for our country. now i and a lot of people think it would be cool if "proud to be an american" was our country's national anthem.
    Двери закрываются, а в почтовом ящике. Два письма теряются от другого мальчика.

  15. #15
    Почётный участник
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Соединенные Штаты Америки
    Posts
    111
    Rep Power
    11
    now i and a lot of people think it would be cool if "proud to be an american" was our country's national anthem.
    Are you joking? No... really I cant tell.
    I do not understand very well the best way of understanding ..

Similar Threads

  1. Polskii National Anthem
    By carperdiem in forum Polish
    Replies: 35
    Last Post: September 7th, 2006, 12:47 AM
  2. what does you national anthem mean
    By patriot in forum Politics
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: May 9th, 2006, 12:58 PM
  3. Russian National Anthem
    By kwatts59 in forum Audio Lounge
    Replies: 33
    Last Post: January 20th, 2006, 08:44 AM
  4. Montenegro adopts new flag and national anthem
    By Tambakis in forum Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: July 17th, 2004, 11:13 AM
  5. Russian National Anthem
    By Zhenya in forum Culture and History
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: July 11th, 2004, 04:40 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


Russian Lessons                           

Russian Tests and Quizzes            

Russian Vocabulary