Thread: Obama Birth Certificate Faked

Pavelov, with respect, I vehemently disagree. Deception is an earmark of all things political, but as a citizen, I personally feel Obama's citizenship, given that this person was voted into office by the popular and electoral colleges, is a moot point, and serves as a distractor from more important issues.

Namely, the fact that the giant Bush hornswaggle is now a closed and complete loop. Not like it's new info, but I couldn't find this being talked about by anyone on the net except Bill Hicks. Check this out. YouTube - Bill Hicks - Iraq Weapons Conversion An odd thing to post, I know, but he mentions in this comedy routine the actions that daddy Bush took to arm Kuwait and Iraq, only so that later he and his son respectively, could go battle these now 'dangerous' countries.

Why is this important? Because on the eve of a highly-likely-to-be-a-falsified-black-ops announcement - the death of Bin Laden - we can now observe a re-focusing in the media on this citizenry issue; and, frankly, it is in my opinion an obvious distractor, a flare, a chaff, meatn to distract the eyes from what is more important in our field of vision. I heard it said, that it was like America's government had been cheating on its people, like a man might cheat on a woman, ever since Bush blew down the towers in 2001 - and what's going on now is analagous to that same cheating individual, swearing that the other woman is now a thing of the past - but refusing to throw away her phone number. (i.e., refusing to show the "body")

And: Traitor is a strong word, one I would fain reserve for the likes of Benedict Arnold; whle I can respect how that opinion was formed, I feel that it is an overstatement that has snowballed to said level of severity through repetition in the media, and particularly among those same political parties, i.e. the Tea-Partiers and the like, who are dead-set on hog-tying any effort that the presidency makes while in office. The choice of the word "traitor" is the same choice of words these politicos make; and I would use the word 'traitor' to refer to Anna Chapman, before I would use it to refer to Obama.

These things being said, I respect your opinion, Pavelov. But my own opinion is no result of -washing, and I doubt I qualify as an elite in anyone's book. =)

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Originally Posted by kidkboom

these politicos make; and I would use the word 'traitor' to refer to Anna Chapman, before I would use it to refer to Obama.

These things being said, I respect your opinion, Pavelov. But my own opinion is no result of -washing, and I doubt I qualify as an elite in anyone's book. =)

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Your post was amusing since it should be as in the fun stuff section.

No, seriously, I disagree with you and although it was amusing you call Anna Chapman, a Russian spy, a bigger traitor than a U.S. President, I will let it go.

I believe your Government 'leader' is to serve the public but not their own interests and especially not complicit in such unethical deception and blatant harm and dare I say murder of his own citizens for political and financial gain. Although, I suggest he's a puppet for a much more sinister organization or group of people. But, the mod here will say I am hating on someone but just some research and common sense will suggest this is certainly true.

If the public can try to suspend their blind support for once and look at the facts plus the likelihood that these politicians are the cold-hearted, ruthless people that they are, maybe they might start to realize they are not the nice people they wish they were. Oh well.

Originally Posted by Pavelov

Your post was amusing since it should be as in the fun stuff section.

No, seriously, I disagree with you and although it was amusing you call Anna Chapman, a Russian spy, a bigger traitor than a U.S. President, I will let it go.

I believe your Government 'leader' is to serve the public but not their own interests and especially not complicit in such unethical deception and blatant harm and dare I say murder of his own citizens for political and financial gain. Although, I suggest he's a puppet for a much more sinister organization or group of people. But, the mod here will say I am hating on someone but just some research and common sense will suggest this is certainly true.

If the public can try to suspend their blind support for once and look at the facts plus the likelihood that these politicians are the cold-hearted, ruthless people that they are, maybe they might start to realize they are not the nice people they wish they were. Oh well.

Pav, I'm all ears. Tell me about the sinister organization. I've come across several of these types of theories in my research. Most don't pan out. I'm interested to hear your theory.

As for Anna Chapman, you don't have to "let it go." Tell me why Anna Chapman is less of a traitor to the American people than Obama. (Heads up: If they're not citizens, they're BOTH not citizens; if Obama is and she's not - well, that would make Obama a citizen... and if they're BOTH not citizens, how does one rack up more "traitorship" than the other when neither is owed an allegiance to America through citizenship?? A quandary..)

"I believe your Government 'leader' is to serve the public but not their own interests and especially not complicit in such unethical deception and blatant harm and dare I say murder of his own citizens for political and financial gain."

I agree with you in this one thing; what you describe is not the job of the leadership. But I think we disagree, in that you think that Obama's guilty of these things, and I would need to see some sort of evidence to that fact, or remain unswayed.

As an aside, the Mods here are good people, and if we remain civil and do our best to support what we say with fact or evidence, it's my experience that they're helpful and supportive of debate. (To a point.. I do tend to ramble)

The fact that Obama has spent up to 2 million dollars in legal fees to prevent people from digging into his past combined with the recent forged birth certificate he released, that Hawaii said didn't exist, is enough for a serious investigation. Obama has already been caught using other people's social security numbers AND there exists a Kenyan Obama birth certificate that is just as valid as the one he just released. There isn't an investigation only because he is protected by oligarchs. Obama, is a prime candidate to be shot or imprisoned for his crimes. He will never be brought to justice because every law that he has signed will be invalided if the courts rules him illegally in the presidency and it will be too much of a mess to straighten out. Personally, I hope he chokes on his own tongue tonight!

Originally Posted by kidkboom

ever since Bush blew down the towers in 2001

Can't possibly take you seriously now.
Try RT

Originally Posted by capecoddah

Can't possibly take you seriously now.
Try RT

Look, I respect your opinion, though I've done an awful lot of research to get mine. I won't try to tell you I'm right or you wrong on this. I know ad-nauseam that for every two people who had a cousin like mine running through the dust-cloud that there are two-hundred thousand who got their info from Fox News. And one answer is way, way, WAY safer than the other. ..... And this argument just expired, anyway - they just 'killed' the guy who 'did it,' remember? Buried at sea - along with any hope of un-writing false histories. So, the gopher sees his shadow, and Houghton-Mifflin will be printing that "Osama" did it for the next 2000 years.... Honestly, sometimes I think it's the better bet to just keep my research and opinions to myself. Sorry if I've offended you. No harm intended.

But your switch between taking me seriously and taking me less-than-seriously happened pretty quick.

((Мое единственное намерение было так: поделиться своими мыслями по этим темам. Я не намерен никому оскорбление или что-нибудь, и я не намерен вреда кому-либо или что-нибудь. Я надеюсь, что я поступил с уважением. Спасибо всем вам за предоставленную мне возможность выступить в этом сообществе.))