Thread: "Russophobia" and "Russophilia" :)

Originally Posted by Eric C.

I wouldn't say of course it was an act of planned genocide against a nation, even though it looks like that from many perspectives. But you can't deny that what the commies did in the countryside in those times was total robbery of everyone who had anything to rob. And just before the famine, it had been food mostly. It went for the "purposes of supplying the working class" or whatever else BS they had to say. So, as the drought destroyed any current food people were growing, they also ran into the total absence of any savings they had made, and that was ultimately why they had literally nothing to eat...

And just in case you don't realize what those "collective farms" are, it goes like this: you're a farmer and you grow stuff and sell stuff from your farm, so now you disown your farm, and give it up to the state, and you're hired by the state to work on {formerly your} farm for something close to the current minimum wage. Pretty tough huh?

It would also be very easy to call the Great Depression in America a planned disaster. It's very easy for influential people on Wall Street to control markets and the investors that didn't off themselves made massive amounts of money when it happened.
Or maybe the housing bubble? Goldman-Sachs made a ton of money and drove tons of Americans into poverty.
And there's also the people of Oklahoma who were forced to move to California during the dust bowl period. Have you ever read John Steinbeck's book "The Grapes of Wrath"? The ones that didn't work for slave wages were in prisons or murdered.
But hey, who chopped down all the trees that caused the dust bowl?
#Conspiracy theory

The only one I would consider to be a conspiracy in that list is the housing bubble. But only as a conspiracy of greed by Goldman-Sachs. Btw, dad already pulled out of that company before that happened.
Oh, and don't forget all the 9/11 conspiracy theories, lol. So imo, the 1932-1933 famine is just another conspiracy theory to add to a massive list.

But I think I already said in another post - No, I would never live in a communist country. If other people are fine with that lifestyle that's cool but that wouldn't be me. I don't need that much freedom but I definitely need more freedom than that.
And no way I would ever work for a minimum wage! We discussed that at another forum and I really don't get how anyone could survive with that little money. I get very happy just knowing I will never have to.

Originally Posted by UhOhXplode

I get very happy just knowing I will never have to.

Never say never. It's not that I'm wishing a poor life on you, in fact, I hope you'll never have to live like that. It's just most of those Ukrainians refugees never thought they would end up living in a war zone and etc.

One thing that the life teaches you (also it usually does that the hard way) is that you can never be 100% sure of what will happen in the future