Thread: question on how russians dress compared to americans

Yes, why not?

I think it differ foreigners from Russians.

Oh good.

Yes it's diferent every where in the world.

Speaking for my self and the majority of Australia men, I think we can dress our selfs not very good.

Jejik,
What happens when you get old and are no longer pretty? Will the men in your life treat you differently?

Why do you think that old woman can't be pretty? She may be elegant, well dressed and so on. As I remember English and American history -- the lady must have a lot of values (and always to be elegant is one of them)/

I do think that older women are pretty. But men think differently than I, and if your husband's friends do not think you are pretty, (now or 20 years from now), how does that affect you or your husband?

Ok... some Russian tradition... it is like Indian woman must be plump.

If my dress is good -- it costs some money, the better the dress- the more money, if I had a good hair style - it costs some money, if I have a good shoes -it cost some money, if I have a lot of jewelry - it costs some money. The better I look - the more money my husband must spend on me, the more money he must earn. Well dressed woman is an index of men success.

Of course, everything in this explanation exaggerate a lot, but You must understand that Russians already don't think why their wifes and daughters must be smart. They must be... because all other women are.

It is not the problem of my own family. I know a lot of girls whose parents look how they dress when they go to parents friends or relatives. All the relatives must think that a family has prosperity and they know how to bring up thier children.

And some Russians, who are here, am I right?

personal pride in appearance is good, nothing wrong with wanting to leave the house looking respectable. you score kudos with partner and people make positive judgments about you when they look at you.

Beyond looking good, my experience with Russian women is that they are usually more educated and smarter than their husbands. But these women never stand up for themselves when the men treat them like idiots. Of course they complain when we are alone with other women but they never say anything to the men. They also wait on their husbands like a servant. I have one friend who even irons her husband's t-shirts!

Almost all Russian women iron their husband T-shirts (And it is a big surprise for me that in other countries men iron them themselves), but all the other is ravings of a madman. I don't know any woman who bahave herself as you say, and I don't know why do you think they are more educated? It is the same as in any other country, my husband is a surgeon and a lot of his friends too, I am a philologist, the godfather of our child is a judge, and the mother -- phytopatholog and so on and so on. Who of us is more educated?

My Russian girlfriends are lawyers, university professors, engineers etc. They are married to truck drivers, auto mechanics and men who have not been to university.

Don't get mad about the t-shirt ironing. For American women to be asked to iron a t-shirt would be an insult. All t-shirts are permanent press and come out of the drier wrinkle free. Also many men here help with the house work if their wife works outside of the home.

Do you want to say that in the USA lawyers don't marry truck drivers? Then you think more about what your relative will say then we. Don't forget that people in Russia usually marry when they are about 22-23, when they are students. I get married at 19 and become a mother in 20, and belive itsn't strange at all for Russia. My husband was 24. Most people at this age haven't any profession or education at all ( I mean my age) and believe a lot of women (especially if their grandmothers and grandfathers didn't have University education) will marry a lorry driver if he can earn money, don't drink much and love her.

It is true that in America it is not common for a lawyer, doctor, or any highly educated professional to marry someone who is not at their level in society. America has a strong class system with distinctly different layers. Each class adheres to it's own life style. You can distinguish someone's class by their taste in music, tv and sports. It is easy to tell a person's upbringing by such small things as their table manors.

Originally Posted by JB

It is true that in America it is not common for a lawyer, doctor, or any highly educated professional to marry someone who is not at their level in society. America has a strong class system with distinctly different layers. Each class adheres to it's own life style. You can distinguish someone's class by their taste in music, tv and sports. It is easy to tell a person's upbringing by such small things as their table manors.

Not common, but definitely not unheard of. And there's lots of class switching in the U.S. Plenty of suburban kids who slack off, fail out of college, work at the gas station, and become "white trash". Plenty of rural or poor kids who have two parents who work as say a plumber (or truck driver), and say a secretary or receptionist, who have a decent combined income, and push their kids to excel in school and go to college.

I would have no problem marrying a smarter woman, then she can stay at work, and I will look after kids and house.

I would love to do that.

It is true that in America it is not common for a lawyer, doctor, or any highly educated professional to marry someone who is not at their level in society.

Oh, all my dreams of working 6 hours a day with little responsibility are spoiled.

The mobility within the class system is pretty much within the middle class. Lower middle class can become upper middle class with education and an increase in professional status. But don't confuse income or profession with class. A destitute aristocrat will still have the manners and habits of the upper class even when eating at McDonalds, while a person raised in a lower class will easily be recognized by the higher class no matter how much money he has.
Also a person who marries someone of a lower class may be the subject of ridicule and gossip by his/her own class, as in the marriage of John and Jackie Kennedy.
Aren't we Americans a snobby bunch!

Except with in the top 5% of our socioty, I don't think people care to much who you mary and what socail back ground they come from.

so, if a russian family had only 1 son... would the parents make the son do chores around the house such as cleaning the kitchen, doing the dishes, and doing luandry? or would they chop wood, and cut grass (im just trying to find out how much easyer my life would be if i was russian

Your life would probably be harder.

doubt it... do eveything, if my mom would at least do the woman work *i,e dishes washing things, vacuum* i would have a much easyer time when im done slaving in the yard.