Thread: Local people comment what happened in Mariupol at 9th May (video) + related

Originally Posted by Eric C.

The problem is, of all the people out there, it's mainly Ukrainians and Russians who are involved in endless arguments about the counter-terrorist operation in Ukraine. I can see why the Ukrainians are --- it's their country after all. But what about you, Russian guys? You may not notice that, but you're acting like you really have a share in that conflict, while even the official position of your country is that you're just observers. So you ARE involved, or still not? Or, maybe, you just like arguing so much you just can't resist using every opportunity? That is just confusing...

I think I could answer that rather easily.
Most of Ukrainians are Slavs, they also were involved with Russia economically and culturally for many decades and even centuries, until collapse of the USSR. Many Ukrainians speak Russian in every day life.
My mother was born in Central part of Ukraine, West from Kiev and has lived there for 20 years, so she is Ukrainian by blood but Russian by citizenship.
My uncle holds dual citizenship (Russian/Ukrainian).
I have two cousins in Crimea.
To me Ukrainians are no different than my mother or my uncle or my cousins.
Many Russians have relatives in Ukraine as well, I suspect they have similar thoughts.
If you have a good look on Russians and Ukrainians - we are but ONE nation, separated by political games.

Originally Posted by hddscan

I think I could answer that rather easily.
Most of Ukrainians are Slavs, they also were involved with Russia economically and culturally for many decades and even centuries, until collapse of the USSR. Many Ukrainians speak Russian in every day life.
My mother was born in Central part of Ukraine, West from Kiev and has lived there for 20 years, so she is Ukrainian by blood but Russian by citizenship.
My uncle holds dual citizenship (Russian/Ukrainian).
I have two cousins in Crimea.
To me Ukrainians are no different than my mother or my uncle or my cousins.
Many Russians have relatives in Ukraine as well, I suspect they have similar thoughts.
If you have a good look on Russians and Ukrainians - we are but ONE nation, separated by political games.

I hope they become two friendly nations some day. But two nations can't be "one".

Originally Posted by Eric C.

I hope they become two friendly nations some day. But two nations can't be "one".

A nice example of ignorance. Go learn the basics All the way down to how and where Russia descends from?

Originally Posted by iCake

A nice example of ignorance. Go learn the basics All the way down to how and where Russia descends from?

I do know history. Russia chose its own way at the end of the medieval ages, and so did the current Ukrainian lands. You can't just go all the way down and restore what was 1000 years ago. If you think you can, fine --- how about making Ulan Bator your capital based on your confederation with the Mongols in the 13-14th centuries?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

how about making Ulan Bator your capital based on your confederation with the Mongols in the 13-14th centuries?

You know what you're doing right? Comparing an ass with a finger And you're the one who accused others of word twisting. I don't see how your "притягивание за уши" is better

And you do know that the Ukraine was a part of the Russian empire, don't you? Maybe, you just forgot this but I will remind you that there was no such state as Ukraine before the fall of the USSR?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

I hope they become two friendly nations some day. But two nations can't be "one".

And that's what you believe
But I was answering your question about what Russians believe, I hope you got the picture.

Originally Posted by Eric C.

But two nations can't be "one".

Maybe. But you forgot that people in the East Ukraine and people in Russia ARE one nation (Russians) at least because those regions have always been Russian inhabited by Russian people, and only abt. 100 years ago were included in the territory of Ukraine, and it was just formal for them since it was one country anyway (USSR). Most people in the East are culturally, mentally, and ethnically Russians, and they ARE one nation with us who live in Russia.