Quote Originally Posted by rimz View Post
Hi,
No doubt, it's important to know history, almost every nation did bad things in the past but I think it's also important to focus how now a nation treats negative historical events, whether admits wrongs. Apparently, American settlers commited atrocities to American Indians as well as to other nations but is it approved as right in modern American society? Why do you think "Now the Native Americans are 2nd class citizens in the US."? Is it possible now in the US anyone will go on streets shouting insults to Indians or any other minority with impunity?
At the same time modern Ukrainian radicals can freely march yelling like "Маскаляку на гиляку! - Hang Russians!" and make masked crashings, isn't it? Yeah, they are minorities and such elements can be found in any country but is it possible to behave openly like that in the USA without judging?
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It's very complicated in the USA. I learned that our country never admitted doing anything bad until the Civil Rights movement happened in the 1960's. Now it's "illegal" to be prejudiced but that's only enforced in extreme cases. The police provide protection for KKK parades and "kill whitey" is allowed in black music. And yeah, any Native American that accepts their own culture has to live on a reservation. But you are right. A parade like the one I saw in Kiev would set off alrams in the USA.
But it's also true that the USA is still creating negative historical events (like the bombing of Yugoslavia, the violent coup in the Ukraine, sanctions against Russia, supporting Right Sector when they burned people alive in Odessa, and the war in Iraq) and not admitting their wrongdoing.

That's why I said "But do KKK members control the government? Who knows? Memberships in radical organizations can be concealed."
The truth is, if the government in Kiev really wanted a peaceful solution to the "Ukrainian Crisis" they would have stopped the parade. But they didn't. That government doesn't claim to be loyal to Right Sector but everything they do is approved of by Right Sector. I think it's very possible for politicians to have the same beliefs and goals as a radical group without "officially" being members of the group.

The reason I chose the USA to compare with the Ukraine is because both governments have 2 faces. One face is their PC and the other face is their real goals. For example, President Maksimka (Obama) was used to appease the black voters but his goals are almost identical to the goals of President Bush. Also, he didn't do anything that he claimed he was going to do in his political speeches.
So yeah, I can understand the Ukrainian history more when I read American history. But that doesn't make what's happening right. Imo, Right Sector should be labelled a terrorist organization by the UN and the Ukrainian government should not be supporting Bandera and turning it's head when they violate ethnic-Russian Ukrainian's rights. If they really want their terretorial integrity then the laws have to be fair for both cultures. If Kiev refuses to make the laws fair for both sides, then Ukraine needs to split into 2 separate countries because genocide is NOT an acceptable solution.