Thread: Jewish genocide against Russia, Ukraine..........

Originally Posted by Jasper May

You know, I think I'm actually agreeing with bad manners. Jews aren't devils, but they aren't saints either. Western White people ditto. Black people ditto. It really irritates me when black people think they're being discriminated against every time they're accused of something. Never mind whether they're guilty or not, they're discriminated against. So they sue. And they win, somehow. Probably because no white person wants to be branded a racist.
Some goes for jews. As I said, there are a lot of good, nice jews and black people, but in the same ratio to bad ones as white people.

All of which goes without saying. I would only add that it's very easy not to have a chip on your shoulder about discrimination when you're a white male of good Christian stock. A history of persecution doesn't, of course, justify a persecution complex, but surely it makes it easy to understand?

Originally Posted by bad manners

I do not even think that Z-thing exists. Do not put words in my mouth, please. All I ever wanted to say is that there are grounds for criticism, and that criticism should not be labeled "anti-Semitism". No more, but no less.

Who's putting words in your mouth? Oy gavult, we're largely of one voice here, you and I. That Israeli policy in all its forms has a Zionist bent is difficult to deny, though. Criticism of Sharon and every single one of his predecessors is justified, necessary and is, I quite agree, not fit to be labelled anti-Semitic. Suggestions that the Holocaust was to any extent the figment of a grasping imagination is a different mater entirely.

Anyway, this - you'll be pleased to note - is my last word on the subject.

a white male of good Christian stock.

Who says I am? I am though, and I agree. I don't have any comment to make regarding this, but I think the maximum timelimit within which compensation (of any kind) can be demanded should be set at ~50 years. Just a thought.

Points:

I will not comment on all of the ridiculousness of Eagle's original statements. I have seen this kind of idiotic garbage on Pravda's forums many times and it is what made me decide to never bother posting there thirty seconds after I registered. It suffices to say that the early socialist movements that Marx drew upon when formulating Communism were all Christian (St-Simon, Fourier, et al). It also suffices to say that the first Christian church itself advocated selling one's property and living communally with each other. Where did Marx get the phrase "to each according to his need?" From the book of Acts in the New Testament itself! I quote from the King James Version (Acts Chapter 4, Verses 34-35): "Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, [a]nd laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need." This Jewish conspiracy even seems to go back to those damned evil apostles! But wait, it gets worse. This conspiracy runs to the very top, it is so foul and corrupt. Some of its propaganda has the audacity to soil our good Christian texts with terrible lines like (this is from Luke Chapter 6, Verse 30): "Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again." Here again we see more of this kind of leftist nonsense in verses 34-35: "And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil." You are probably thinking, what kind of crazy bullshit is this? If bankers did this it would mean the end of their existence. Sadly, I'm afraid, it just keeps going on like this. "Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again." And on (Luke Chapter 18, verse 22): "Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me." A couple verses down: "For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

Even God himself seems to be some kind of a secret member of the evil empire that is conspiring to consume us all. He says in Isaiah Chapter 3, Verses 14 and 15: "The Lord will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the poor is in your houses. What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces of the poor? saith the Lord God of hosts." In Ezekiel Chapter 18, Verses 8-9 the rotten bastard says: "He that hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any increase, that hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true judgment between man and man, [h]ath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord God." What the fuck? Without usury capitalism could not exist. It would be some sort of Benjamin Tucker pseudocommunist individualist evil bad place. Fuck you, God. You're an evil Jew conspirator like all the rest.

To conclude, before I never speak to Eagle again, it is true that a lot of Jews are prone to the ideas of socialism and communism. This has more to do with often coming from communal kibbutzim backgrounds, as well as being among the few people of the 19th century who could actually read and write. This same argument, which is completely ridiculous and irrelevant, is often lodged against the upper classes of Russia and Europe. Somehow, it is said, their wealthy backgrounds make their philosophies on the poor irrelevant. This argument may hold water now with the creation of public schools, but back then there was not a universal literacy rate and it is quite understandable that nobody else would be capable of formulating a complex socioeconomic theory based on exhaustive historical analyses of class conflict when they are busy working in a shoe factory 14 hours a day since the age of 6. That kind of a lifestyle makes it sort of hard to work in a French philosophy class or two at the local university (which they would probably never see unless they are cleaning the shit out of the water closets or something). Considering the Jews did quite well for themselves in Europe (save Lutheran Germany) financially in the 19th century, it is not surprising to see that these two backgrounds (educated and Jewish) would overlap. It is also not surprising that when these Jews immigrated to the United States and were forced to take up manual labor jobs, they did not immediately forget everything they had learned and were not as complacent with their positions (not that non-Jews were not constantly revolting against their bosses since the dawn of civilization: Wat Tyler, the Molly McGuires, the French Revolution, and on and on ad infinitum). If you want to blame socialism and communism on anything, try blaming it on just about every primitive and tribal society in the world, every medieval city and village in Europe prior to the rise of feudalism, and the harsh realities of capitalism. Or was Mao Zedong's birthname Mao Bernstein-Zedong? Che Guevarastein? Ho Chi Minhdelbaum?

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The Russians captured by the Nazis suffered a terrible fate. The Germans practically ignored the Geneva Convention entirely when it came to treatment of Soviet POWs because of the shrinking of the Eastern Front closer to Germany's borders. In fact, as the war came closer to ending, most of the Russian prisoners, who were often-times lent out to German farmowners as slave labor, were simply shot in pits and other grisly endings so that they could not be liberated by the advancing Red Army.

Also, most of the communists in German and those captured by German forces (including just about anyone in Soviet borders who was not a soldier) were sent to the same concentration camps as the Jews. In total, ~20m people died collectively in the Holocaust, of which only 6m were the Jews. They were the largest single group--which is why they are often portrayed as the target of the attacks; I'm sure had there been a few more million Gypsies or handicaps exterminated our outlook of the Holocaust and the stigma around Nazism would be drastically different.

Originally Posted by bad manners

Because they are distorting the truth. Those same camps killed a lot more Russians/Ukrainians/Byelorussians than Jews, yet those activists almost never mention the fact, which leads many to believe that the camps was created solely for the Jews and nobody but the Jews.

I find this hard to believe considering most of the eastern camps had Ukrainians for guards. As for distortion of truth, it is more about the Cold War and trying to promote heroism in history. The US is glad when it actually gets a chance to provide some excuse for being involved in a war. And while the Holocaust had absolutely nothing to do with US involvement in Europe in WW2, it is used as the ultimate justification for it after the fact to which nobody can give any argument against. As for the Soviet losses, we do not want to speak of them because Russians were Communists at the time, not because they were non-Jews. These same outlets of entertainment, news and education that some of you claim are controlled by Jews and thus are giving a 100% Jewish bias to the Holocaust forget that these same outlets also spent 80 years making it seem like a few million dead Communists is not such a bad thing (does anybody remember the slogan, Better Dead than Red?). As another example, millions of homosexuals were exterminated in the concentration camps too. History books (in schools) do not speak of them either. Not because their deaths were less significant, but because it is not something we necessarily wanted to evoke sympathy for or make children think is "moral."

1)Whoa, it's Mike! Awesome!
2)Whoa, Mike, this thread was like a thousand years old.
3)Whoa, Mike, good points!

Originally Posted by Линдзи

1)Whoa, it's Mike! Awesome!
...
3)Whoa, Mike, good points!

I can only but sign under these words.

When I first saw Mike's post, for a moment I thought my eyes are playing tricks on me or that I was not completely awaken yet.

Frankly, I did not read his post except the final paragraph. I agree with the last paragraph. However, this silent ignoring the truth is distorting the truth. Which, like it or not, has created an end-all excuse for anything if a person or a group of persons may call himself or themselves 'Jewish'.

Mike you are wrong about school books not talking about extermination of homosexuals in the camps. School history books in the UK do talk about this, plus the ill treatment/torture/ murder of gypsies, tramps, nuns, priests and trade union leaders - at least the books my children brought home did

Originally Posted by MasterAdmin

I have removed Eagle and all related posts from our community.

Eh? What's this? It seems that not only our old moderator has been resurrected here.

Originally Posted by Pravit

Originally Posted by MasterAdmin

I have removed Eagle and all related posts from our community.

Eh? What's this? It seems that not only our old moderator has been resurrected here.

I'll tell you for sure that eagle's posts in this thread were never removed. Probably MasterAdmin was talking about some other of his posts.

Rather spooky. Is Mike going to come back with an army of zombie forumers, such as z80, garmonistka, vbouldr, Tron_somenumber, and Bunny? And heaven forbid - his zombie wife Russkaya_Love!

I suggest we grab flashlights and head for the spooky roller disco.

Originally Posted by Pravit

I suggest we grab flashlights and head for the spooky roller disco.

Is it a hint on a Bored Corp. Cubicle Party flash cartoon?

Not really, actually. There are spooky roller discos everywhere.

And if I remember right, Mike hates "Dilbert." Although that's probably not what you're referring to.

Originally Posted by Pravit

Not really, actually. There are spooky roller discos everywhere.

And if I remember right, Mike hates "Dilbert." Although that's probably not what you're referring to.

I was referring to this.

Originally Posted by bad manners

Frankly, I did not read his post except the final paragraph. I agree with the last paragraph. However, this silent ignoring the truth is distorting the truth. Which, like it or not, has created an end-all excuse for anything if a person or a group of persons may call himself or themselves 'Jewish'.

There is a book I saw in Borders, I forget the title, but it was by a Jewish rabbi and dealt with how the Holocaust has been turned into little more than a money-making inaccurate historical setting much like the Old West or King Arthur's Camelot or what-have-you. His thesis is that the reason they portray it as Jews vs Nazis or US vs Nazis is because it creates a very convenient backdrop of black and white "good vs evil" (much like the Old West and Camelot--the fake ones, of course, not reality) to make films and television shows, books, political analogies and rhetoric, etc. I wanted to buy the book, but I had recently cut my hair very short and my brother was visiting from the Coast Guard (so he had a shaved head), and we both have blue eyes so I spent ten minutes deliberating before deciding I would pass on getting it. Unfortunately, therefore, I cannot give a better description of his view.

Originally Posted by Friendy

Pravit wrote:
Not really, actually. There are spooky roller discos everywhere.

And if I remember right, Mike hates "Dilbert." Although that's probably not what you're referring to.

I was referring to this.

I don't hate Dilbert per se. I just find it (and most other comic strips) to be rather formulaic and trite. Allow me to sum up Dilbert for you: Average guy has sassy talking non-human friend (Dogbert, Catbert, Ratbert--well, Ratbert is not his friend he just works in the Human Resources Dept at the company), makes observations about life that are rather obvious and unfunny, works in crappy job, has stupid boss and quirky friends. Now let's see how this formula relates outside of Dilbert. Make "sassy talking non-human friend" a cat, you have Garfield. Make it a robot, you have Robotman. Make it a tiger, replace work with school and boss with father, you have Calvin and Hobbes. Take out father, make tiger dog and you have Peanuts. Make the sassy talking non-human character a penguin you have Bloom County. Make slight modifications like this you can pretty much describe everything from Cathy to Ziggy. The only thing worse than these cookie cutter comics seemingly created by the newspapers like some sort of Mad Lib are the ones that have observations that barely qualify as jokes, like Family Circus. The punchlines in Family Circus are just like, "Hey Mommy, look at that cloud. It looks like mashed potatoes, I sure wish I could eat it!" or "I don't know who this Al Kida guy all the growed ups are talking about is but he can't have my freedom! I hid it under the bed with my pet frog, James." or "Pastor Jones says Grandma's not really dead, she's just a ghost made out of dotted lines that does creepy shit in the background of the strip when I'm talking about her." You know, since we're talking about concentration camps and exterminating people, maybe we ought to construct one specifically for people who find Family Circus funny. We could save a lot of time tracking them down and transporting them by just installing Zyklon-B pumps into the air conditioning systems at all the country's retirement homes.

Originally Posted by Pravit

And heaven forbid - his zombie wife Russkaya_Love!

Yeah, that's funny in more ways than you can possibly realize. I can't divulge too much information, but allow me to put it this way: if she isn't a "zombie" by now there's no way in hell I'm paying the other $25,000. In other words, if she isn't "consumed by an overwhelming desire to rise from the grave and eat the brains of the living" at this precise moment then I defy them to come get the money from me. I would really like to see those greaseball lowlifes come over here and

hey, this is mark again. just wanted 2 let everybody know i am fine. do not call the police or anytihng i am kewl. relly. welp, now i must go i have to go live in the himilayas beacuse i decided to be a monk so i will be gone. forever. please do not email me or anything like that because budists can't use email, only ms dos and all they let us run is oregon trale. well, догспит аня everyone. i have 2 go now.

Originally Posted by mike

Originally Posted by Pravit

And heaven forbid - his zombie wife Russkaya_Love!

Yeah, that's funny in more ways than you can possibly realize. I can't divulge too much information, but allow me to put it this way: if she isn't a "zombie" by now there's no way in hell I'm paying the other $25,000. In other words, if she isn't "consumed by an overwhelming desire to rise from the grave and eat the brains of the living" at this precise moment then I defy them to come get the money from me. I would really like to see those greaseball lowlifes come over here and

As far as I can figure out from this (but I'm not good at guessing those kind of riddles) it's about a sue or something like that. It's really scaring and depressing that internet conflicts can come to that , it probably means that internet is not as free and independent (at least in some countries) as I thought it to be.

Of course, it's very hard and painful to lose an intelligent, valuable and charismatic forumer , but the world is not standing still, maybe someday they'll let the monks use internet and visit forums (actually I know some monks, not Buddhist though, do visit forums) and maybe sometimes, say, once in a year (of course the more frequently the better) we'll be receiving an extremely intelligent, reasonable, broad-minded, thought-provoking, fair, unbiased, with amazing sense of humor post from the only monk on this forum.

Thanks for everything, Mike, good-bye and good luck in everything you want to achieve.

P.S. If all that monk-thing was a joke then ignore the last two paragraphs of this post.

Dear Friendy,
I've been to Thailand and the monks(Buddhist, naturally) there can use internet and computers if they want to. As long as it has to do with learning.

Dear Mike,
I like monks. Alas, I'm also terrible at riddles. What happen?

I like monks. Alas, I'm also terrible at riddles. What happen?

Clue #1: My name is not Marc.