Thread: Edward Snowden and his stay in Russia

It's awesome that Snowden has a really cool job in Russia now! But he really needs to learn that the world will never be perfect. Imo, the US has some serious issues that can't be fixed cause those issues aren't just in the government but in the people too. But now Snowden lives in a country that has a long history of working to fix issues and, imo, he picked the best country to live in. Most people here can get happy about snooping and lies but Snowden couldn't and neither can I. A strong part of US culture is all about snooping, lies, and intimidation. It's everywhere you go here and you can see it in the news - especially about invading and interfering with other countries. But it doesn't stop there cause it's also about weakness and trust.

What was the worst thing that happened? I mean, Snowden believes we have the right to know what the government is doing. Well, if we believe in our country then that shouldn't be a problem, right?
No, the worst thing that happened was in our government. It failed on so many levels. It lost the trust of the people with a lot of it's lies but it was also proven, in the courts, that it violated 3 very important parts of the Constitution.
Is that important? Well, maybe not as important as these:

1. The government can't keep a secret and that violates National security.
2. Our security is so lame, even the Chinese know all about our new weapons systems.
3. Yeah, the politicians are liars but they're stupid liars - they always get caught lying.
4. Our president can't even shake hands with Putin without making excuses about being old and weak.
5. Our president smiles so much, he looks like a clown!

Yeah, I can understand why Snowden wanted to divorce the US. No country is perfect but at least Russia has a really cool culture and it's a strong country. And yeah, people should be where they belong, not just where they're born. Imo, he has 2 choices now. He can become a Russian citizen and accept the fact that no country is perfect or he can hop from Russia to Germany and other places and become a dude without a country. But I don't get how anyone could be happy without a country to believe in and when he has kids, they'll probably want a country to believe in too. He really needs to be thinking about that.

About Litvinenko and yandarbiyev:
Something else I really really like about Russia - No extraditions. Russia protects it's culture and it's citizens!
Well, since Litvinenko was protecting Berezovsky, then he was probably a Yeltsin supporter and a robber capitalist. Imo, that should be enough to convict anyone! And he was also a nutjob since he tried to convince people that Putin was staging terrorist acts. No way I would ever believe that. But Lugovoy's statements passed a lie detector test and I don't believe Litvinenko was assasinated by the FSB.
And I won't even discuss Yandarbiyev! He was a Chechen and an enemy of the Russian people. If the FSB assasinated him, that's cool. Somebody needed to!
I think every country has the right to defend itself but if Russia does, it must be doing it discretely cause I never see much in the news. In our country, it's about as subtle as a nuclear disaster!

Originally Posted by UhOhXplode

About Litvinenko and yandarbiyev:
Something else I really really like about Russia - No extraditions. Russia protects it's culture and it's citizens!
Well, since Litvinenko was protecting Berezovsky, then he was probably a Yeltsin supporter and a robber capitalist. Imo, that should be enough to convict anyone! And he was also a nutjob since he tried to convince people that Putin was staging terrorist acts. No way I would ever believe that.

About Litvinenko.
Actually, he was not a spy. He was just an ordinary FSB official. Berezovsky paid him for his treason and supported him in London (but not that much as Letvinenko wanted). In fact, Letvinenko was just a greedy and silly loser. Berezovskiy was very greedy, too, so there was the one difference between them: Berizovskiy had big money, Letvinenko hadn't.
The western Media keep silence about the simple fact, that all the traces lead not to London, but from the city. We can suppose that Litvinenko had this radioactive material on hand. That's why everyone who contacted with him in London got a radioactive mark.
I guess, Letvinenko wanted to sell something illegal, like polonium etc, maybe he was a middleman, who knows. It looks like he didn't observe safety and radiation killed him finally. Of course, this fact was used by Berezovsky and other enemies of Russia like a reason to attack Putin again. But if we look at it objectively, all these "facts" are just a fog of PR. The version that Putin ordered to assassinate this complete loser who didn't know anything also sounds very funny.
By the way, Berezovsky worked on Great Britain secret services. So everyone must remember how traitors end up.

Originally Posted by Paul G.

About Litvinenko.
Actually, he was not a spy. He was just an ordinary FSB official. Berezovsky paid him for his treason and supported him in London (but not that much as Letvinenko wanted). In fact, Letvinenko was just a greedy and silly loser. Berezovskiy was very greedy, too, so there was the one difference between them: Berizovskiy had big money, Letvinenko hadn't.
The western Media keep silence about the simple fact, that all traces lead not to London, but from the city. We can suppose that Litvinenko had this radioactive material on hand. That's why everyone who contacted with him in London got a radioactive mark.
I guess, Letvinenko wanted to sell something illegal, like polonium etc, maybe he was a middleman, who knows. It looks like he didn't observe safety and radiation killed him finally. Of course, this fact was used by Berezovsky and other enemies of Russia like a reason to attack Putin again. But if we look at it objectively, all these "facts" are just a fog of PR. The version that Putin ordered to assassinate this complete loser who didn't know anything also sounds very funny.
By the way, Berezovsky worked on Great Britain secret services. So everyone must remember how traitors end up.

Both Berezovsky and Putin are traitors, though. Both were buddies for a while, also. But, some traitors become expendable? Maybe that's the key... and those are facts!!!!

Wow, this is pure comedy gold below!:
"Something else I really really like about Russia - No extraditions. ***Russia protects it's culture and it's citizens!***"

Explode?!? I think I'm gonna explode with laughter! Btw, you chose the wrong 'its.'

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Wow, this is pure comedy gold below!:
"Something else I really really like about Russia - No extraditions. ***Russia protects it's culture and it's citizens!***"

Explode?!? I think I'm gonna explode with laughter! Btw, you chose the wrong 'its.'

It's fast and easy to pick a country and be idealistic about it. It takes time to realize there's no such country anywhere.