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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborski View Post
    But if Putin accepts Snowden's asylum request, it could trigger another cold war between our countries, so it is a very tenuous position for Putin to be in and I do not envy him the decision.
    Are you sure? Your favourite network makes it sound like Putin is doing his own thing:

    Russia in largest war games since Soviet era - CNN.com

    I don't think the U.S. could do much to Russia if they decided to process Snowden's request. I disagree with the statement (said by whom? You or Hanna), that Putin should make some sort of statement and be enthusiastic about doing so. No, he doesn't have to make any statement but just go by the law (haha - I know). It's that simple. Instead, he's an opportunist, nothing else. He stands up to the U.S. about Syria (well, sorta) and other issues but not this one.

    Both the Soviet Union and the USSA (if you watch youtube videos, many people call the USA this) are both good at propaganda. Putin still knows how to work it (former KGB / FSB after all).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14Russian View Post
    Are you sure? Your favourite network makes it sound like Putin is doing his own thing:

    Russia in largest war games since Soviet era - CNN.com

    I don't think the U.S. could do much to Russia if they decided to process Snowden's request. I disagree with the statement (said by whom? You or Hanna), that Putin should make some sort of statement and be enthusiastic about doing so. No, he doesn't have to make any statement but just go by the law (haha - I know). It's that simple. Instead, he's an opportunist, nothing else. He stands up to the U.S. about Syria (well, sorta) and other issues but not this one.

    Both the Soviet Union and the USSA (if you watch youtube videos, many people call the USA this) are both good at propaganda. Putin still knows how to work it (former KGB / FSB after all).
    Well, maybe Snowden had a feeling that exactly this would happen, whereas I imagined that Russia would actually think it was cool to give the USA a taste of its own medicine. The USA is forever on about "human rights" in Russian, tries to imagine military aggressiveness where there is none, and alluding that the media in Russia is state controlled "by Putin"....etc, etc.

    Here, Russia could have been the country standing up for human rights, freedom of speech and against government corruption in another country.

    However, it sounds like the fear of echoes from the Cold War, lukewarm interest and suspicion from the public in Russia, and the relationship with the "American partners" weighs stronger.

    Whatever the Russian public thinks is fine by me -- maybe I was naive in thinking people would take an interest and support it.

    Also, I think Edward Snowden was a little naive. If he wanted Russia's support, he should have gone straight there and appealed to the public. If he fancied a life in South America, then why go to Hong Kong first? I really don't get why he went there at all. Perhaps it was not planned out at all, but he simply reacted without having all the fact and weighing the alternative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph View Post
    If any samples of blood for ANY reason have been drawn (hospital, dentist, clinics..etc) then guess again... The tentacles go way beyond what is generally known.
    Have you actually got any proof for that? It sounds a bit far-fetched...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    Have you actually got any proof for that? It sounds a bit far-fetched...
    This is what stealth is all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14Russian View Post
    Are you sure? Your favourite network makes it sound like Putin is doing his own thing:

    Russia in largest war games since Soviet era - CNN.com

    I don't think the U.S. could do much to Russia if they decided to process Snowden's request. I disagree with the statement (said by whom? You or Hanna), that Putin should make some sort of statement and be enthusiastic about doing so. No, he doesn't have to make any statement but just go by the law (haha - I know). It's that simple. Instead, he's an opportunist, nothing else. He stands up to the U.S. about Syria (well, sorta) and other issues but not this one.

    Both the Soviet Union and the USSA (if you watch youtube videos, many people call the USA this) are both good at propaganda. Putin still knows how to work it (former KGB / FSB after all).

    Erm.... I do not watch CNN.... not sure how/why you think it is "my favorite network." I've mainly been following The Guardian UK on the Snowden case, as well as some other UK and Russian news sites.
    Вот потому, что вы говорите то, что не думаете, и думаете то, что не думаете, вот в клетках и сидите. И вообще, весь этот горький катаклизм, который я здесь наблюдаю, и Владимир Николаевич тоже…

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