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    Russians have a strong identity. День народного единства proved that in 1612. Americans have a strong identity too but the US identity is invasive. Dunno, maybe Americans thought that after the victory over the putschists that there was a chance to westernize Russia. But it didn't happen so maybe that's a huge part of the problem.
    I don't get why people can't just accept other cultures and learn from them. It's so easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UhOhXplode View Post
    Russians have a strong identity. День народного единства proved that in 1612.
    It is absolutely artificial identity. Well, maybe it was important historically but now, I believe, most people have no Idea what happened that time. Russians were able to organize against polish invasion? Sounds kinda funny today. Ivan Susanin & "Life for the Zar"? Even more funny.
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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    Quote Originally Posted by it-ogo View Post
    It is absolutely artificial identity.
    The history itself is artificial since it's made by humans.
    I must admit that an idea of a Polish invasion or the loyalty towards the now discredited Romanovs might sound kinda ridiculous today. Yet, I find nothing funny about the year 1612. The Motherland was in peril and our ancestors arose to save it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrBaldhead View Post
    The Motherland was in peril and our ancestors arose to save it.
    Yep. It sounds quite respectable in patriotic rhetorics. But did you personally palyed a hero of 1612 in your childhood? Were you so inspired about that symbol of national unity? Will your children be?

    That's what I call artificial.
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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