Thread: Разные вопросы по глаголам (by tiudavidharris

I am confused by the meaning of the words:

вводить
вносить

in my dictionary, it says they mean 'to bring in'.
when do you use вводить?
and when do you use вносить?

вводить usually means "to bring/walk somebody in"
вносить means "to bring something in"

So youre saying that the following is how i use these words?

'я ввожу их в зал.' - i am leading them into the hall
'я вножу сумку в комнату.' - i am bringing in a bag into the room

but i also found in my book that these words mean 'to introduce'

'страна вводит новые реформы.' - the country is introducing new reforms
'россия введет миграционную карту.' - russia will introduce a new migration card
'я вножу предложениею' - i an introducing a proposal

i am confused that they both mean 'to introduce'.
which word do i use to mean 'to introduce' in this context?
do you have better words or more colloquial words to express 'to introduce'?

Originally Posted by tiudavidharris

So youre saying that the following is how i use these words?

'я ввожу их в зал.' - i am leading them into the hall
'я вножу сумку в комнату.' - i am bringing in a bag into the room

but i also found in my book that these words mean 'to introduce'

'страна вводит новые реформы.' - the country is introducing new reforms
'россия введет миграционную карту.' - russia will introduce a new migration card
'я вножу предложениею' - i an introducing a proposal

i am confused that they both mean 'to introduce'.
which word do i use to mean 'to introduce' in this context?
do you have better words or more colloquial words to express 'to introduce'?

Yes, вносить/внести - to carry smth. into smth.; вводить/ввести - to lead smb. into smth. Also it can mean to introduce (to add smth. to smth.), to inject and some other meanings. They are different meaning of the same word.

Many words in all languages have a set of meanings rather than 1 exact meaning.

'я вношу предложение'

Вводить and вносить can both mean "to introduce" but they are not interchangeable. Вносить as "to introduce" means "to bring to someone's consideration", to propose. Вводить as "to introduce" means that introduced object will be put in action as a matter of fact, the decision is already made.

Overall: вести - the object is active; нести - the object is passive.

Originally Posted by Doomer

вводить usually means "to bring/walk somebody in"
вносить means "to bring something in"

Agree.

Originally Posted by tiudavidharris

So youre saying that the following is how i use these words?

'я ввожу их в зал.' - i am leading them into the hall
'я вношу сумку в комнату.' - i am bringing in a bag into the room

Please notice:

вводить - ввожу, вводишь, вводит, вводим, вводите, вводят - the stem's final consonant is voiced
вносить - вношу, вносишь, вносит, вносим, вносите, вносят - the stem's final consonant is voiceless
(there was your mistake)

Technically, you can even use "вносить" with the nouns which denote people. But in some special cases I will show you the difference:

Я ввожу девушку в зал. - I am leading a girl into the hall (we are walking in together).
Я вношу девушку в зал. - I am bringing in a girl into the room (I am carrying her on my arms, she is not walking on her feet).

I hope you see the difference now.

As to the other meaning "to introduce", I like it-ogo's explanation.

i am confused that they both mean 'to introduce'.
which word do i use to mean 'to introduce' in this context?
do you have better words or more colloquial words to express 'to introduce'?

In line with what it-ogo has said about the words having several meanings, to get suitable colloquial translation, you have to get the word that has the central meaning you want.

'To introduce' in English having the meaning 'to become acquainted' would be something like познакомиться.