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    Hardest part of the language?

    What part of the grammatics do you think is the hardest?
    What makes Russian hard for you?

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    Shiftable stress makes even me crazy sometimes with its "double" norm.
    «И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».

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    I thought awhile, and I guess Russian isn't that difficult to learn, relatively speaking. Verbal aspect is probably the trickiest part of grammar.

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    I think there is nothing which is especially harder than anything else... Cases and verbal aspects can take some time to get your head around though, but it's all pretty logical.

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    What about prefixes? I've always thought that it must be very hard to distinguish between them.
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    Yeh, prefixes are a pain in the ass。

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    Ура! Я был прав. Просто я часто замечаю, что многие изучающие русский язык делают ошибки в приставках.
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    Can anyone (non-Russian) distinguish the meanings: отъехать, приехать, съехать, въехать, наехать, переехать, уехать, заехать, выехать, подъехать, доехать?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rtyom
    Can anyone (non-Russian) distinguish the meanings: отъехать, приехать, съехать, въехать, наехать, переехать, уехать, заехать, выехать, подехать, доехать?
    Я отвечать не буду, т.к. я русский, но особо мне понравилось подехать без твёрдого знака. Можно ещё е на ы исправить
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil
    Quote Originally Posted by Rtyom
    Can anyone (non-Russian) distinguish the meanings: отъехать, приехать, съехать, въехать, наехать, переехать, уехать, заехать, выехать, подехать, доехать?
    Я отвечать не буду, т.к. я русский, но особо мне понравилось подехать без твёрдого знака. Можно ещё е на ы исправить
    Исправлено на нужный вариант.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rtyom
    Can anyone (non-Russian) distinguish the meanings: отъехать, приехать, съехать, въехать, наехать, переехать, уехать, заехать, выехать, подъехать, доехать?
    I would say, yes. Once you can identify each verbal prefix and know the meaning of each one, then it makes things easier and gives you a clue of what the meaning of each verb you wrote will or would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rtyom
    Can anyone (non-Russian) distinguish the meanings: отъехать, приехать, съехать, въехать, наехать, переехать, уехать, заехать, выехать, подъехать, доехать?
    let me try without looking in a dictionary. I will moslty use the (one) translation ехать = drive

    отъехать = to drive away from smthing (the station)
    приехать = to arrive (by transportation)
    съехать = to drive down (from a hill), to drive there and back
    въехать = to drive in something (city, courtyard)
    наехать = to drive over someting (your wife, your wallet)
    переехать = to move from one place to another (move from one apartment to another)
    уехать = to leave (by transportation)
    заехать = to drive by (i.e to pick up something)
    выехать = to drive out of smthing (city, courtyard)
    подъехать = to drive under something (bridge) (?)
    доехать = to drive up to, to reach smthing (to drive up to the fence)
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    you got them all, but ехать is easy. Let's try читать. To make it more interesting I included words that don't exist

    отчитать = ?
    причитать = ?
    считать = ?
    вчитать = ?
    начитать = ?
    перечитать = ?
    учитать = ?
    зачитать = ?
    вычитать = ?
    подчитать = ?
    дочитать = ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    you got them all, but ехать is easy. Let's try читать. To make it more interesting I included words that don't exist

    отчитать = ?
    причитать = ?
    считать = ?
    вчитать = ?
    начитать = ?
    перечитать = ?
    учитать = ?
    зачитать = ?
    вычитать = ?
    подчитать = ?
    дочитать = ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    you got them all, but ехать is easy. Let's try читать. To make it more interesting I included words that don't exist
    Yeah, this is though... here are my guesses...

    отчитать = No existo, amigo
    причитать = No existo, amigo
    считать = to count
    вчитать = No existo, amigo
    начитать = No existo, amigo
    перечитать = to re-read
    учитать = to take into consideration
    зачитать = to start reading
    вычитать = to think, to conclude
    подчитать = No existo, amigo
    дочитать = to read up to a certain point
    прочитать = to read all of (a book)
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    It was a tricky question:

    отчитать = to reprimand/ to read a lecture
    причитать = to wail
    считать = to count/ to read a file/ and many other meanings
    вчитать = No existo, amigo
    начитать = to read aloud and record
    перечитать = to re-read
    учитать = No existo
    зачитать = to read out / to borrow a book and fail to return
    вычитать = to find in a [rare] book/ subtract, deduct
    подчитать = No existo, amigo
    дочитать = to read up to a certain point
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    5 out of 11, plus the bonus one you missed... but yes, it was tricky. But there is a general trend for the prefixes...
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    With the words of motion they are more or less clear, otherwise I'd say you just have to know them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    It was a tricky question:
    ...
    вчитать = No existo, amigo
    ...
    подчитать = No existo, amigo
    дочитать = to read up to a certain point
    Подчитать does exist, it means to read something in order to collate it or to read texts that need to be corrected.
    Вчитать does not exist but we do have вчитаться.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderkat
    Подчитать does exist, it means to read something in order to collate it or to read texts that need to be corrected.
    Never heard of it
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