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    Use of an infinitive

    I have a problem and I don't know if it is only matter of usual hyperbaton in poems or it is a regular use of infinitive that I don't know. It is like this:
    Лебедь, Щука и Рак

    Однажды Лебедь, Рак да Щука
    Везти с поклажей воз взялись
    И вместе трое все в неговпряглись.

    However the general meaning of the 2nd verse is clear I don't understand why the infinitive Везти = carry. So please translate the 2nd verse as well as explain to me why Везти is in infinitive, unless the normal order, whithout hyperbaton, would be: They took a charriot to carry (with) the luggage?
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    Re: Use of an infinitive

    Quote Originally Posted by Vladi
    I have a problem and I don't know if it is only matter of usual hyperbaton in poems or it is a regular use of infinitive that I don't know. It is like this:
    Лебедь, Щука и Рак

    Однажды Лебедь, Рак да Щука
    Везти с поклажей воз взялись
    И вместе трое все в неговпряглись.

    However the general meaning of the 2nd verse is clear I don't understand why the infinitive Везти = carry. So please translate the 2nd verse as well as explain to me why Везти is in infinitive, unless the normal order, whithout hyperbaton, would be: They took a charriot to carry (with) the luggage?
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    You ve just translated it good and explained it your self

    They took(взялись past tense) a charriot to carry(везти ihfinitive) (with) the luggage?

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    Re: Use of an infinitive

    Quote Originally Posted by Vladi
    I have a problem and I don't know if it is only matter of usual hyperbaton in poems or it is a regular use of infinitive that I don't know. It is like this:
    Лебедь, Щука и Рак

    Однажды Лебедь, Рак да Щука
    Везти с поклажей воз взялись
    И вместе трое все в него впряглись.

    However the general meaning of the 2nd verse is clear I don't understand why the infinitive Везти = carry. So please translate the 2nd verse as well as explain to me why Везти is in infinitive, unless the normal order, whithout hyperbaton, would be: They took a charriot to carry (with) the luggage?
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    Везти с поклажей воз взялись = Undertook carrying a cart with luggage

    The usual word order would be:

    Взялись везти воз с поклажей.
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    Взять и взяться

    Quote Originally Posted by Vadim84
    Везти с поклажей воз взялись = Undertook carrying a cart with luggage

    The usual word order would be:

    Взялись везти воз с поклажей.
    Yes, I think that the difference you propose is because of взяться
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