Thread: Shades of meaning

Originally Posted by Pioner

Originally Posted by net surfer

I didn't say it's grammatically incorrect! I just said it sounds kinda weird , nothing else.
Yeah the sentence "ты являешься дураком" is also grammatically correct but nobody says it that way.

что тут грамматически неправильно?

В каком месте я сказал что это грамматически неправильно? Перечитай сообщение.

sorry, I skipped part of your sentence. Anyhow "weird" is quite humble opinion, isn't it? I can find a few variants when such sentence does not sound weird.

Yeah, it's my opinion. Why do you think it's quite humble? :) Anyway, give us your variants and we'll see.

Originally Posted by net surfer

Yeah, it's my opinion. Why do you think it's quite humble? Anyway, give us your variants and we'll see.

anyones opinion is quite humble, mine is not exception.

Example you asked, first which came to my mind.

Archeologists found a strange artefact, and discuss, what it can be.

- Я думаю, что это ковырялка для ушей.
- Нет, я уверен, что эта хреновина является ключом.

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sounds weird?

"Является" sounds bookish and/or official and/or scientific. It's not widely used in colloquial Russian but it's used all the time in written language.

I agree, but people here study Russian, not only "speaking" Russian, you here in the streets? Or am I wrong?

Originally Posted by Pioner

Originally Posted by net surfer

Yeah, it's my opinion. Why do you think it's quite humble? :) Anyway, give us your variants and we'll see.

anyones opinion is quite humble, mine is not exception.

Example you asked, first which came to my mind.

Archeologists found a strange artefact, and discuss, what it can be.

- Я думаю, что это ковырялка для ушей.
- Нет, я уверен, что эта хреновина является ключом.

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sounds weird?

Yep.

Because you mix formal (является) and colloqual (ковырялка, хреновина) words. Like in a joke:

После оглашения результатов вступительных экзаменов в институт разговаривают два свежеиспеченых студента:
- Ну вот и мы теперь, можно сказать, интеллигенция...
- Че?
- Х@й через плечо!!!!!!! Интеллигенция, говорю...

I agree, but people here study Russian, not only "speaking" Russian, you here in the streets? Or am I wrong?

You're right. And I didn't say that he should have forgot this word and didn't use it. We just try to put words in appropriate examples which sound natural, for formal words formal examples, for colloqual words - colloqual ones.