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    Can somebody check this translation?

    Can somebody check this translation?
    Thanks in advance.

    After Shrek saved the princess from the dragon, the princess asked
    Shrek to remove his face shield so that she can see him.
    Shrek removed his face shield. The princess showed a funny, sad, and
    disappointed look on her face and said "You're an Ogre."

    После Shrek спас принцессу от дракона, принцесса спросила
    Shrek, чтобы удалить его щит лица так, чтобы она могла видеть его.
    Shrek удалил его щит лица. Принцесса показала странное, грустное, и
    разочарованное лицо и сказало "Вы огр".
    Какая разница, умереть богатым или бедным?

    Какой толк от богатства если ты не счастлив.

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    As always, I'll try to make the minimal number of corrections and avoid rephrasing as much as possible. Certain things have to be rephrased or they sound way unnatural.

    После того, как Шрек спас принцессу от дракона, принцесса попросила Шрека снять шлем, чтобы она могла посмотреть на его лицо. Шрек снял шлем. Лицо принцессы изменилось, стало грустным и
    разочарованным, и она сказала "Вы огр".
    I've got a TV, and I'm not afraid to use it

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    "Щит лица" - это мощно!

    Огр? А нельзя ли перевести "ogre" "людоедом"?
    «И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».

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    Thanks guys.
    A couple more questions.

    Why do you say "После того, как Шрек" instead of just "После Шрек"?
    What does "того, как" mean?

    What is the difference between "удалить" and "снять"?

    What is the difference between "посмотреть" and "увидеть"?

    "Щит лица" - is this what happens when you drink too much?
    Какая разница, умереть богатым или бедным?

    Какой толк от богатства если ты не счастлив.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwatts59
    Thanks guys.
    A couple more questions.

    Why do you say "После того, как Шрек" instead of just "После Шрек"?
    What does "того, как" mean?

    What is the difference between "удалить" and "снять"?

    What is the difference between "посмотреть" and "увидеть"?

    "Щит лица" - is this what happens when you drink too much?

    Удалить раковую опухоль, удалить недостатки, удалить грязное пятно...
    Снять шлем, снять ботинки, снять одежду. (правда можно ещё: снять фильм, снять квартиру, снять проблемы. )

    посмотреть = увидеть, но иногда они различаются. Но "увидеть" говорят чаще про то, что видется впервые, хотя есть исключения. Например принято говорить "посмотреть кино", а не "увидеть кино". Или же говорят: "Наконец то я увидел Путина", а не "Я посмотрел Путина"
    К этому надо привыкнуть, они разнятся в зависимости от контекста, и тут правила нет.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwatts59
    Thanks guys.
    A couple more questions.

    Why do you say "После того, как Шрек" instead of just "После Шрек"?
    What does "того, как" mean?

    What is the difference between "удалить" and "снять"?

    What is the difference between "посмотреть" and "увидеть"?

    "Щит лица" - is this what happens when you drink too much?
    "После того, как" works for a continuation of the sentence, while just "после" doesn't. "После" can be used here in the sense of "потом", which doesn't require this continuation.

    "Удалить" doesn't include the meaning of "снять". And if it does in some other context, it sounds too formal.

    "Посмотреть" is "to have a look", "увидеть" is "to see".
    «И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwatts59
    Thanks guys.
    A couple more questions.

    Why do you say "После того, как Шрек" instead of just "После Шрек"?
    What does "того, как" mean?

    What is the difference between "удалить" and "снять"?

    What is the difference between "посмотреть" and "увидеть"?

    "Щит лица" - is this what happens when you drink too much?
    I'll just give you my take on that, which may or may not be the same as the guys' opinion. You can compare and make your own conclusion.

    "После того, как Шрек" bit. If you just say "После Шрек", it reads as "After that, Shrek did something". После того, как indicated that it was in the reference to what the princess did. The princess did something after Shrek saved whatever.

    удалить means to remove as in to make disappear, not to take off.

    The most difficult part is the difference between "посмотреть" and "увидеть". Technically, I think you could say "увидеть его лицо" in this example, it is not unacceptable. However, посмотреть implies an active approach, a purpose, you do something to see it. If you say увидеть, it sounds like it happened by chance, because you just happened to pass by. In the sentence there is a definite purpose: the princess wants Shrek to remove the shield in order for her to see his face.

    ""Щит лица" - is this what happens when you drink too much?" Not only that, but you also have to be totally wasted to say that . It does not sound natural at all.
    I've got a TV, and I'm not afraid to use it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rtyom

    Огр? А нельзя ли перевести "ogre" "людоедом"?
    Probably.
    I've got a TV, and I'm not afraid to use it

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    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    If you just say "После Шрек", ...
    Wouldn't you say "После ШрекА"?
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    I would... but после фильма Шрек
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darobat
    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    If you just say "После Шрек", ...
    Wouldn't you say "После ШрекА"?
    No . После потопа may be. After the shrek, if "a shrek" was a disaster of some kind. Or a wedding.
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    So why would you use nominative in my case, but genetive in others? I thought после required genetive.
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    Last edited by Darobat on Mon Mar 5, 1759 1:19 am; edited 243 times in total

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darobat
    So why would you use nominative in my case, but genetive in others? I thought после required genetive.
    Not if it means "afterwards".
    "После Шрек снял свой шлем" = "Afterwards, Shrek removed his wuddjacallit."
    Why would you use genetive here? Shrek is the subject of this sentence.

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    Ahhhh.. I get it now. Thanks.
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    Last edited by Darobat on Mon Mar 5, 1759 1:19 am; edited 243 times in total

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    Wow, what a coincidence! I just watched that film today.
    "Happy new year, happy new year
    May we all have a vision now and then
    Of a world where every neighbour is a friend"

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