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On the Learn English thread http://masterrussian.net/mforum/view...p?f=29&t=20727 I spoke about the movie Stand and Deliver, as yesterday an amazing educator and person, Jaime Escalante died.
If you have not seen this movie, it really is an uplifting and inspirational film and I highly recommend it (I do own this DVD).
I found a link to the film on StageVu http://stagevu.com/video/vebaqxoeixdg.
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"Ballad of a Soldier/Баллада о солдате" (1959)
Yes, I want to see it --- but what's a love film when you have no love (romantic) in your life...!!? Makes me feel lonely! Even though my lack of romance is completely voluntary, it is nevertheless still a bit lonely.
(Don't want to get involved because I don't plan to stay in London and I had a terrible heartbreak a while back. Not fully recovered.)
I have a strong feeling that if I watch Баллада о солдате I'll feel as if I can't manage without a man (which is exactly what I am doing...)
"Dawns here are quiet" is more about friendship camaraderie etc... No romance other than fragments of the memories of the heroines.
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"Ballad of a Soldier/Баллада о солдате" (1959)
Yes, I want to see it --- but what's a love film when you have no love (romantic) in your life...!!? Makes me feel lonely! Even though my lack of romance is completely voluntary, it is nevertheless still a bit lonely.
(Don't want to get involved because I don't plan to stay in London and I had a terrible heartbreak a while back. Not fully recovered.)
I have a strong feeling that if I watch Баллада о солдате I'll feel as if I can't manage without a man (which is exactly what I am doing...)
"Dawns here are quiet" is more about friendship camaraderie etc... No romance other than fragments of the memories of the heroines.
Johanna! Woman! There are times everyone feels that they can't manage without other people... it is what makes us human... but your life should not be defined by a man or lack of a man. No man (or woman) should determine for you where you live or how you live. If you want to live in London or in a hut on a remote island... that should be YOUR choice... and if by chance you are lucky enough in life to meet a man who wants to share that life with you, then great.
This is the trouble I have with the "Hollywood" idea of romance and marriage. Marriage is WORK people!!! Romance, if you want it, make it happen. Your partner will not always put rose petals all over your bed and light candles and remember your birthday or anniversary! If you want that, you might need do that yourself or TELL them that you want that.
Now I admit, I do LOVE a good chick flick even though I think they set the expectation for people WAY too high... so Johanna, watch the movie with a pint of ice cream and know... YOUR LIFE HAS VALUE. YOUR LIFE HAS MEANING. With or without a man. (BTW, I would give the same speech to a guy, just change the pronouns
around!)
And I fully expect DDT to come along and post something dreadful about my post! So, go on...Bring it on!
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I wholeheartedly concur Rockzmom. Of course we do not need a man (or woman) to be happy. But still, it's nice to have someone to be happy with.
And I looooooove chick flicks. Especially with a pint of ice-cream :oops: .
BTW, has anyone noticed Birubir's channel on youtube is down?
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BTW, has anyone noticed Birubir's channel on youtube is down?
What a shame. :sad: Probably another result of RAS' dirty work.
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Rockzmom, devochka; thanks for the moral support! What you say is true!
:friends: :angel:
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Как насчет зажигательный = stirring ?
How 'bout "exhilarating"?
translation of зажигательный as inflammatory, might not be idiomatic.
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No movies to add, but have been reading Gogol.
And Kuznetsov's Babi Yar (his updated version). Almost had a heart attack, several times.
Books are (almost) always better than movies.
Is there a thread for books here? I haven't looked, but now I will...
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How 'bout "exhilarating"?
Yeah, great idea! Thanks!
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Is there a thread for books here? I haven't looked, but now I will...
There is, there is. Do come over there and tell us more about "Baby Yar". Haven't heard about this book. Only I'm afraid I'm quite done with reading horrible stuff on WWII...
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Is there a thread for books here? I haven't looked, but now I will...
There is, there is.
Я ищу книги нить ...
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Is there a thread for books here? I haven't looked, but now I will...
There is, there is.
Я ищу книги нить ...
I suppose that starrysky referred to the thread Literature Talk: Russian & Non -Discuss/Review/Q&As.
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Okaaaay, I just continue escaping from reality, :D that is, watching Bollywood, and have now seen quite a lot of movies. I have only a few favourites because, frankly, it's very rarely that I like a Bolly film entirely. Most often, it's just some moments or the music that I like. But those films that I do love, I love passionately. :-) Have become quite a Bolly-maniac though I don't think I'll ever take it as far as some people go and make it to the South Indian cinema. Can't really post normal reviews for all my favourites so I'll just copy-paste my post from another forum listing them and my impressions on some of the films (the first three are mainstream and were very popular while the others are more unusual, art films (Dil Se and Asoka especially):
Main Hoon Na (it's a masala movie -- lots of genres mixed into one but it's also quite unique. I have a very soft spot for it because it was my first modern Hindi movie; and anyway I still think it's one great, fun, feelgood solid entertainment. It's a sort of self-parody -- spoofing a lot of Bollywood stereotypes but it also stands on its own as a story. Humour is definitely one of the things I like so much about it.)
Kuch Kuch Hota Hai (KKHH) (a love story/melodrama. Liked it the first time round, LOVED it on repeat viewing. My first film with Shahrukh Khan and Kajol -- aah, the chemistry)
Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge (DDLJ) (love it. It's just a classic. The first half is incredibly romantic and invariably lifts my mood. Can't help chuckling at many scenes even though I've seen the film three times already. I've noticed that I watch it with a silly smile on my face.)
Asoka. SUCH a beautiful, artistic film. SO disappointed it wasn't more successful. Beats me. Didn't think I would like it at all -- since it's got Kareena Kapoor in the leading role (more on that later), and I don't watch that type of period films anyway -- from really ancient times when people went about barely dressed -- because it usually includes lots of violence, battle scenes, and heads and limbs flying in all directions. I was strong enough to see Gladiator on big screen when I was about 16 and though it made a huge impression, I've had enough violence to last me a lifetime. No "Troy" or "Alexander" after that. Especially since those were clearly made because of "Gladiator"'s success. Anyway, Russell Crow is one thing, and Brad Pitt is quite another. If that makes sense, lol.
The thing that got me about Asoka is that it's such a tragic, poignant story, based on real life too. Shahrukh is just amazing. He managed to portray Asoka's journey really well. And Kareena did very well in all the tragic scenes towards the end. And the music. "Roshni Se" is so incredibly romantic and tragic.
Dil Se -- little by little it really grew on me. I now think this film's got some of the most romantic scenes ever... It was shot by the same cinematographer as Asoka -- Santosh Sivan. What a great man, I've become somewhat of a fan.
Devdas -- never thought I'd ever call it a fave but I've rewatched it recently looking closely at the acting and it finally got me. This one also has some of the most romantic/beautiful moments in any film I've ever seen. And the ending is heart-rending. Beautifully shot but horrible. Aishwarya is very beautiful in "Devdas" to the point of almost outshining poor Shahrukh though it's one of his best roles -- the rebellious alcoholic Devdas.
That's it. Those are the films that I think are almost without fault. I expected a lot of Kal Ho Naa Ho, Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham, and Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna but those were a bit disappointing. I enjoyed them all right, cried my eyes out at K3G (don't think I've ever cried so much at any film), but there were a lot of things I didn't like. Like Kareena's character Poo in K3G -- she almost ruined the second half of the film for me! Kajol's character was also very over-the-top in the beginning. Didn't like the songs either (except for Suraj Hua Maddham and Yeh Ladka Hai Allah).
Kal Ho Naa Ho -- too much silliness, too many silly characters for me... But also cried my heart out in the end.
Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna -- loved the songs (Mitwa, KANK, Tumhi Dekho Naa -- beautiful, beautiful, beautiful), thought some of the jokes were funny (Black Beast), didn't like Amitabh's character (why the need for so many stupid call girls? And that stupid party, with Rock 'N Roll Soniye song). Think it would be better if the scenes with him were cut and those that didn't make it into the film (like Dev spraying Maya with ketchup) were left. Looooved the love-making scene.
All right, that's it for now. The crappiest movie I've seen so far was Karan Arjun (fight-song-fight-song...). "Koyla" made by the same team is a bit more watchable (poor Shahrukh's character, Shankar, though -- quite unbearable to see him beaten so much).
Also saw some films that don't star SRK:
Rang De Basanti (very good, powerful movie and no songs/dances, too. But it didn't become a fave as it's a bit too depressing)
Vivah (boring, imho)
Rang De Basanti
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Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge
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http://i027.radikal.ru/0806/b2/b5e5cb7c2dc1.jpg
http://radikal.ru/F/s50.radikal.ru/i...c957e19e71.jpg
Kajol is such a beauty
http://indiamovies.ucoz.ru/_ph/7/2/739933449.jpg
But personality-wise I like Rani Mukerji more
http://i057.radikal.ru/0806/67/165f27a72c0b.jpg
Devdas
http://s57.radikal.ru/i156/1004/4c/ae67e90ea857.jpg
http://s005.radikal.ru/i210/1002/c5/5f89a91ca77d.jpg
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http://s48.radikal.ru/i122/1002/2d/59347a8e3bce.jpg
Main Hoon Na
http://khushi2005.narod.ru/mhn-image_2237.jpg
http://nickgray.net/images/MNH6.jpg
Asoka
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d9/Asoka.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c.../medium_10.jpg
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http://s56.radikal.ru/i152/0807/b8/edfc6f5e245b.jpg
Kuch Kuch Hota Hai
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http://www.intelektyal-blog.ru/dvd/kkhh12.jpg
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A hint of a possibility of an intuition of a feeling of a realization of an insight has blossomed that this might have something to do with your avatar. Just a little.
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A hint of a possibility of an intuition of a feeling of a realization of an insight has blossomed that this might have something to do with your avatar. Just a little.
Nay, nay, you're wrong there. It has nothing to do with my avatar whatsoever. :)
On a different note, saw in the news today that "Burnt By The Sun-2" has been premiered. Is anyone planning to go see it? I'm in two minds. On the one hand, Mikhalkov knows how to make good movies and "Burnt By The Sun" was a very powerful film, on the other... Well, a sequel to such a film sounds so lame. Like a sequel to "Titanic."
http://www.kinomania.ru/pics/posters/8/8ngd.jpg
"Burnt by the Sun 2 (Russian: Утомлённые солнцем 2, translit. Utomlyonnye solntsem 2) is an upcoming Russian drama film directed by and starring Nikita Mikhalkov. It is scheduled to compete for the Palme d'Or at the 2010 Cannes Film Festival.[1] It is the sequel to Mikhalkov's 1994 film Burnt by the Sun."
Directed by Nikita Mikhalkov
Produced by Nikita Mikhalkov
Written by Nikita Mikhalkov
Rustam Ibragimbekov
Vladimir Moiseyenko
Aleksandr Novototsky
Starring Nikita Mikhalkov
Cinematography Vladislav Opelyants
Editing by Svetolik Zajc
Release date(s) 22 April 2010
Country Russia
Language Russian
Discussion in Russian http://forum.kinomania.ru/showthread.php?t=22334
An article about the film in "Izvestia" http://www.izvestia.ru/culture/article3133168/
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On the one hand, Mikhalkov [s:l29vc1qv]knows[/s:l29vc1qv] knew how to make good movies
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On the one hand, Mikhalkov [s:1dzmuuze]knows[/s:1dzmuuze] knew how to make good movies
Then it's "used to know". :wink:
I dunno... I liked "The Barber of Siberia" all right though it was a bit of a mess but a touching film nonetheless. And I haven't seen "12".
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Listen!! Movies seem to be an excellent thing to discuss)) They are :)
But.. What about our cartoons?? Has anyone discussed it here?.. I love them so much.. There so many outstanding cartoons! Pieces of art))) :oops:
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I'm in two minds. On the one hand, Mikhalkov knows how to make good movies and "Burnt By The Sun" was a very powerful film, on the other... Well, a sequel to such a film sounds so lame. Like a sequel to "Titanic."
http://www.kinomania.ru/pics/posters/8/8ngd.jpg
http://art-sluza.info/2010/04/12/mihalkov2010/
There's a good interview of Mikhalkov where he explains why he decided to make this movie. My opinion has changed and now I wanna watch "Утомлённые-2"ю
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What about our cartoons?? Has anyone discussed it here?
They definitely have. But there is nothing to prevent you from starting it all over again. :)
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And while I'm here.
I want to warn you against watching "The Hills Have Eyes" (2006 one, I haven't seen the original). It's a horror movie with more than plenty of gore, with a ridiculous premise, it's unbelievably clichéd, to the point of looking like a parody, but without even a modicum of humor. It's pathetic.
What horrified me about this movie was not the movie itself (about which I was merely disgusted), but an overwhelming abundance of ecstatic reviews on the IMDb site. I mean, I've seen a lot of movies, horror movies included, I didn't like, but I could always understand why some people might like them, but those people from the site are beyond my comprehension. I hate to think that there are so many almost accomplished maniacs around.
Sorry, if somebody here have seen and liked it. :)
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I want to warn you against watching "The Hills Have Eyes" (2006 one, I haven't seen the original).
I've seen both, but the only reason I remember that I watched them at all is a silly title, and a comment I've read at my local forum: I hope that toilet bowls don't have eyes, or it would be really awkward". :) It was more memorable than the film itself.
If I remember correctly it's one of those movies that deal with maniacal mutant families in deserts? Honestly I can't imagine how someone can like one better than the others, they are all the same. But you got me interested, E-learner. I'll probably watch it again when I'm in a masochistic mood, to see what's all the fuss is about. :)
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There's a good interview of Mikhalkov where he explains why he decided to make this movie. My opinion has changed and now I wanna watch "Утомлённые-2"ю
Yeah... That's why I'm in two minds about it. It might be worth watching after all. But it is still a bit ridiculous. I thought it was all quite unambiguous at the end of the first film that Mitya committed suicide and Kotov was shot. Of course, some people survived the "Great Purge" of 1937 like Marshal Rokossovsky but still... it's ridiculous.
Going slightly offtopic but poor Rokossovky. :shock: Read an interview with some veterans a few days ago in a local paper -- soldiers really loved him.
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Rokossovsky held senior commands until 1937, when he became caught up in Joseph Stalin's Great Purge and accused of "connections with foreign intelligence". His association with the cutting edge methods of Marshal Tukhachevsky may have been the real cause of his conflict with more traditional officers such as Semyon Budenny who still favored cavalry tactics, and whose policy disagreements with Tukhachesvky triggered the Great Purge of the Red Army that resulted in the execution of the latter, among many others. Rokossovsky, however, survived.
After interrogations that included torture resulting in nine missing teeth, three cracked ribs, the removal of his fingernails, and three mock shooting ceremonies, he was sent to the Kresty Prison in Leningrad, where he remained until March 1940, when he was released by Lev Gurshman. Some suggest he was released because there was a need for experienced officers to staff the large army needed for a pre-emptive Soviet strike against Germany,[3] while others will note that full mobilization could also serve a defensive purpose, and was likely in the context of general war mobilization by the other European powers, regardless of intent.
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But.. What about our cartoons?? Has anyone discussed it here?.. I love them so much.. There so many outstanding cartoons! Pieces of art)))
I agree. I luuuurve cartoons too... Ours, Disney classics... Can't help having this deep emotional connection to them. And I don't think it's just nostalgia -- lots of work and talent went into making them. If I remember correctly there are links somewhere at the beginning of this thread for the Karlsson cartoons with subs...
Winnie-the-Pooh
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...or_khitruk.jpg
Трое из Простоквашино/Troye iz Prostokvashino/Three from Buttermilk Village
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tokvashino.jpg
Малыш и Карлсон/Malysh and Karlsson/Little Boy and Karlsson
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lm_2251_09.jpg
Карлсон вернулся/Karlsson Vernulsya/Karlsson Returns
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lm_2508_09.jpg
I just loooove Freken Bok! She is a hilarious "домомучительница". Brilliantly voiced by Faina Ranevskaya.
http://img13.nnm.ru/4/8/3/4/a/8afa2c...86b72_prev.jpg
http://mylove.ru/m/039693e43dc54c08e...ef9ee1fa93de72
http://www.toontrivia.ru/wp-content/...ken-vnutri.jpg
A funny caricature on Valeria Novodvorskaya as Freken Bok http://s49.radikal.ru/i124/0908/78/fcacb39af63c.jpg
Муми-тролль: Шляпа волшебника/Mumi-troll (Moomin-Troll): Shlyapa volshebnika/Magician's Hat
That one is a series of three cartoons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shlyapa_Volshebnika
http://bashnia.sannata.ru/ill/sterligova/ster_mum17.jpg
http://i061.radikal.ru/0908/44/ffb06fe18481.jpg
Большой Ух -- love that one! "Мы медузы, мы медузы... Мы похожи на арбузы"
http://novunku.at.ua/_ld/12/46263721.jpg
http://mulplys.at.ua/bolshoi.uh.0-02-46.jpg
Русалочка/The Little mermaid
http://s40.radikal.ru/i089/1004/9c/53af39dacf6c.jpg
Домовенок Кузя -- also a great cartoon, with a lot of funny quotes. The Baba-Yaga character is marvellous.
quotes in wikipedia1
quotes in wikipedia2
http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic....74e46/view.pic
http://www.zipsites.ru/audio/video/m...k_Kuzya_p4.jpg
Дядюшка Ау
http://i016.radikal.ru/0711/3f/2e57405b8bea.jpg
OK, I think that's about enough pics... I do get carried away sometimes. But there are A LOT of great cartoons. *sigh* :roll:
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it's one of those movies that deal with maniacal mutant families in deserts? Honestly I can't imagine how someone can like one better than the others, they are all the same.
Well, I'm afraid (or should I say "glad"? :) ) that I haven't seen many of that particular kind, as I try to stay away from them. And I didn't expect this one to be like that.
I fell into a psychological trap, you see. I was watching "Outnumbered", about which I read recently on this forum and which turned out to be the best comedy I've seen for years, and there was this line there, said by a father to his little daughter: "You watched The Hills Have Eyes and didn't sleep for six months. And when we drove to Bristol you said the Cotswolds stared at you." And somehow I got the impression that this should be something mysterious, spooky and possibly even fun for an adult to watch. :dunno:
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Honestly I can't imagine how someone can like one better than the others, they are all the same.
The more graphic is smashing or biting off of heads, burning people alive and the like -- the better, I suppose.
The horror movie I really enjoyed was "Tremors". The sequels were not bad too. But of course it was more fun than horror.
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The horror movie I really enjoyed was "Tremors". The sequels were not bad too. But of course it was more fun than horror.
You mean the one about the earthworms that can crawl underground with speeds way over the official overground limit?)))
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You mean the one about the earthworms that can crawl underground with speeds way over the official overground limit?)))
Yeah, them graboids! Terrifying creatures, weren't they? :D
My favorite scene from the movie -- "graboid breaking into the wrong rec room":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y_6H617 ... re=related
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On Starrysky's Bollywood post, I just have to say:
Agree that it is exotic and escapist in the extreme...
The costumes and music are very funky!!
I probably would like Bollywood films if not for the fact that I get such massive overdose of all things Indian at work (work with outsourcers)
There is such a big cultural gap at times, and it can be REALLY hard and to handle when you are stressed and under pressure...
Northern European + Indian = culture clash.... :wall:
I handle it, but once I get home I don't even want to think of India, let a lone watch a film from there...
How terribly politically incorrect, huh? :shock: :evil:
I like my British-Indian colleagues though, but that's a bit different.
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What about our cartoons?? Has anyone discussed it here?
They definitely have. But there is nothing to prevent you from starting it all over again. :)
Doesn't the word "cartoon" mean drawn figures (animations?) like Donald Duck etc? Or does the word simply refer to childrens' TV programs?
Anyway; I remember watching lots of different Russian animated films on TV as a kid and they were great; cute figures and nice plots. Can't remember a single title, unfortunately. But they were a bit like films; long with a plot. Good quality.
I thought this comical one was Russian..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqbbf7EvvXA0 (Professor Balthazar) but I checked it on Youtube and actually, it was Yugoslavian. Absolute cult though; did anyone else watch it when they grew up?
Dr Snuggles - which was German or Dutch, I think; very funky series for kids... another cult...
And Barbapappas!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax8nJqh2P2o
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There is such a big cultural gap at times, and it can be REALLY hard and to handle when you are stressed and under pressure...
Northern European + Indian = culture clash....
This is rather interesting, actually. I'd like to know the details about that cultural gap, since I'm interested in the Indian culture but it's not the place to discuss it... I've so far been irritated only by the treatment of women, widows especially, but I think the situation improved a lot in the last decades.
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Doesn't the word "cartoon" mean drawn figures (animations?) like Donald Duck etc?
I'm not really sure about how to use this word. As I understand it, the first meaning is what we call "карикатура/caricature" (i.e., a funny picture in a newspaper). But it can also mean "animated film." I sort of settled for calling Disney full-length animation, like "Beauty and the Beast", "animated film" and using "cartoon" for short stuff. But perhaps it's better to just say "animated film."
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P.S. The one thing I do hold against Indians is that two of my favourite films -- Asoka and Dil Se -- were flops in India. I just can't get it, they're so beautiful. But not in traditional, rainbow-garish Bollywood style. It's poetry expressed through visuals (I'm not even into poetry). If that makes sense. No, actually, I can understand about Dil Se, as I didn't love it at first sight either -- it was so different and unexpected. I'm reading a thread on Dil Se right now on another forum... And I totally don't know if this will be of use to anyone but here's
the best post on Dil Se I ever read (the first one)
a site about the film explaining how it's about the 7 shades of love
http://www.rage-india.com/dilse/images/lovepic.jpg http://www.rage-india.com/dilse/images/love1.jpg
http://www.rage-india.com/dilse/images/love2.jpg http://www.rage-india.com/dilse/images/srk5.jpg
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What language(s) do they speak in these films?
The English accent of people from India is very distinct and even those who speak English as a second "native" language make a LOT of serious grammatical errors when they speak.
The English that they speak is almost a separate "dialect" of English -- it has SO many speakers and is actually used in India, between many Indians - I was surprised to learn that. That accent is very hard to understand at first. Over the last few years I have got used to it.
Sometimes after hours of meetings with people who speak like this, I almost end up using some typically "Indian" grammar/expressions myself!
I know that my Indian colleagues speak a complicated mix of languages between them (Hindi, Gujurati, Punjabi etc), depending on which part of the country they come from. I can not tell the difference between these languages. Have no idea what language the Bollywood films are in.
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Hinglish! I think that's what they call the mix of HIndi and English expressions.
Distinctly melodious.
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What language(s) do they speak in these films?
Bollywood films are in Hindi, I think. Plus, English/Hinglish. :) I agree that it's a strange form of English. In terms of accent it seems close to Russian (they have the same [r]. Grr, I can't pronounce it properly, I've got "French" [r]; also the same [h], including the Ukrainian version).
There's also this South Indian cinema (in Tamil, Telugu, and other languages), which is a whole other story but I don't think I'll ever go to these... I've a feeling they can only be downloaded on the net since no one distributes them in Russia and I just prefer buying dvds. I think at least with Hindi films we are lucky here that they are dubbed. :| I usually quite like the way it's done. For example, Vladimir Konkin who played Sharapov in "The Meeting Place Cannot Be Changed" lended his voice to many characters played by Shahrukh Khan and did it quite well, I should say. I read that for some people reading subtitles is just an insurmountable task so apparently some Americans totally rule out foreign films because of this.
I'm learning Hindi through the songs. :) It's a lot of fun because words get repeated. There are so many synonyms for "love" -- pyar, ishq, mohabbat, prem, and they all seem almost complete synonyms, not like "infatuation," "passion," etc. But perhaps it's just my insufficient knowledge. I like the language, somehow it looks really easy.
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What about our cartoons?? Has anyone discussed it here?
They definitely have. But there is nothing to prevent you from starting it all over again. :)
Doesn't the word "cartoon" mean drawn figures (animations?) like Donald Duck etc?
Yes, it does. And cartoons were being discussed in this very thread. For example: http://masterrussian.net/mforum/view...winnie#p212590
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starrysky... I love your new sig! my older daughter is a BIG fan of Alice or as she first learned it "Alicia en el Pais de las Maravillas" I think she likes this one the most as when you see Alice in real life, she is a real person and you can speak with her and not some big costume. She has always been afraid of those costume people! Never would go up to them, still won't!
If you want to hear/watch it in Spanish...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HazDa7923tk part 1/10
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"Burnt by the Sun-2 (Утомленные солнцем)" is coming soon.
Influenced by Saving Private Ryan. Going to be much different from the original.
Rus/ http://www.1tv.ru/news/other/152868
Eng/ http://english.ruvr.ru/2010/04/22/6766592.html
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"Burnt by the Sun-2 (Утомленные солнцем)" is coming soon.
Вчера была премьера.
Михалков получит люлей со всех сторон:
- от либералов просто так, за то, что умеет жить при любой власти;
- от коммунистов за Сталина;
- от историков за СМЕРШ и шрафбаты в 41-м
=)
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If you want to hear/watch it in Spanish...
Thanks, rockzmom. :)
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Вчера была премьера.
ВарраВа, tell us at least if you liked it or not?
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ВарраВа, tell us at least if you liked it or not?
Мне, нет. Я нормально отношусь к Михалкову, и помню, что после кучи помоечных фильмов о репрессиях в конце 80-х и начале 90-х, он снял действительно серьезное кино "УС-1", имхо. А здесь какая-то мешанина из всего. Михалков сам говорил, что новый фильм рассчитан на мОлодежь/пОдростоков, к-рые ничего о ВОВ не знают; мне все это режет глаз, я все-таки что-то читал... =)
Upd: Да, еще, очень впечатлительным: в фильме матюги, кишки, кости, малька сексу...
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Мне, нет. Я нормально отношусь к Михалкову, и помню, что после кучи помоечных фильмов о репрессиях в конце 80-х и начале 90-х, он снял действительно серьезное кино "УС-1", имхо. А здесь какая-то мешанина из всего. Михалков сам говорил, что новый фильм рассчитан на мОлодежь/пОдростоков, к-рые ничего о ВОВ не знают; мне все это режет глаз, я все-таки что-то читал... =)
Upd: Да, еще, очень впечатлительным: в фильме матюги, кишки, кости, малька сексу...
Во, спасибо за отзыв! Значит не пойду смотреть. Я так уже подумывала, что на большом экране мне будет не очень приятно все это лицезреть во всей красе... Когда-то я смотрела и "Спасти рядового Райана" в кино, а щас как-то осторожней стала... Не знаю, не тянет. Может потом посмотрю, когда на двд выйдет.
Sorry, rockzmom, for the Russian break (I automatically switch to Russian when replying to something in Russian) -- we are just discussing the sequel to "Burnt By The Sun", which ВарраВа at least wasn't much impressed with. And since I rather trust his opinion, I don't think I'm gonna watch it now... Unless someone chips in and says it's absolutely a masterpiece.
Some of favourite Bolly songs:
"Roshni Se" from "Asoka"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYIItfHdQ6U
Raat Ka Nasha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcucW...eature=related
O Re Kanchi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StO9U...eature=related
From "Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna" (beautifully shot in NY):
Mitwa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTsLz...eature=related
Tumhi Dekho Naa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFw7o...eature=related
Lyrics and translation can be found for example at bollywhat.com --
http://bollywhat.com/lyrics/asok_lyr.html (for Asoka)
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Upd: Да, еще, очень впечатлительным: в фильме матюги,..., малька сексу...
Это ещё ничего...
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...кишки, кости...
А вот это не люблю, значит точно не пойду смотреть. :evil: Имхо излишняя натуралистичность хороша только в порнофильмах. :crazy: