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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    You don’t have to go far, he’s right here behind you http://masterrussian.net/mforum/view...hp?f=61&t=5535

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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johanna
    His biggest hit is Virtual Insanity --- quite old now. That whole album was very good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q936lXxQPTA
    Brilliant, no wait, Jazz is watching, excellent song.
    I must have gotten the same response as rockzmom has on your link and looking for the alternative came upon this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_ucdKkk ... re=related.
    The bastards have put it all in perspective. (May I use the expression that way?) As much as I loved the original I couldn’t help but LMAO or roll on the floor laughing, to put it mildly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Johanna
    I actually used to know the singer in Jamiroqai (his real name is Jay). He's a very funny guy, very smart and deep. He happened to live very close to my house. I lost touch with him after I moved though, but I think he still lives in the same place and still works as a musician. He got into some trouble with the police though, about hashish.
    You mean that guy?

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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johanna
    I actually used to know the singer in Jamiroqai (his real name is Jay). He's a very funny guy, very smart and deep. He happened to live very close to my house. I lost touch with him after I moved though, but I think he still lives in the same place and still works as a musician. He got into some trouble with the police though, about hashish.

    His biggest hit is Virtual Insanity --- quite old now. That whole album was very good.
    He does create very cute music, which is well known in Russia. Personally I like his music a lot.
    So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish

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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johanna
    @Bitpicker do you know about Vysotskij? Have you heard any good covers of him in German? Lots of Swedish and Finnish artists have done covers of him and it wouldn't surprise me if there are some great covers in German too - bigger language!
    No, never even heard the name before. And the German Wikipedia entry doesn't contain a hint at German cover versions either.
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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    Here's a German Goth song from one of my favorite bands. I provide an English translation, too... Of course it is hard to transport ambiguities and puns.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5jLK9OCf8w

    Lacrimosa - Stolzes Herz

    Zu fühlen um zu spüren
    Meine Sinne, meine Seele
    Mein Gewissen und mein Herz
    Am Abgrund meines Lebens
    Am Ende meiner Selbst
    Gebrechlich tief im Innern
    Und schwach nach außen hin

    Ist es schlecht ?
    Und was ist gut?
    Ist es krank ?
    Und was heisst leben?
    Nein -
    Es ist nur ehrlich - menschlich
    Und verflucht -
    Ist doch nur die Wahrheit

    Im Auge der Gemeinheit
    Der Allgemeinheit
    Schlicht verwerflich - transparent
    Doch ist es tiefer, stärker und viel mehr
    So ist der Mensch
    Nur auf der Suche
    Nach der Stärke
    Nach der Lüge - blindem Wahn
    Und der Oberflächlichkeit

    Mit blutverschmierten Händen
    Mit einer Träne im Gesicht
    Einem Lächeln auf den Lippen
    Und der Hoffnung tief im Blick
    Aufzustehen auch aus dem Dreck
    Tief beschmutzt und stolz im Herz
    Dem Leben neu erwacht
    Und erwacht ganz neu im Leben

    Sind meine Hände blind und stumm ?
    Sind meine Augen alt und schwach ?
    Ist mein Herz dem Blut erlegen ?
    Und bei allem doch nur ehrlich
    Bin ich Mensch ?
    Bin ich Schmerz ?
    Bin ich die Träne -
    Und der Kuss zugleich ?!?

    Lacrimosa - Proud Heart

    To feel in order to experience
    My senses, my soul
    My conscience and my heart
    At the abyss of my life
    At the end of myself
    Feeble deep inside
    And weak to behold

    Is it bad?
    And what is good?
    Is it sick?
    And what does it mean to live?
    No -
    It is only honest - human
    and cursed (maybe: damn! as an interjection)
    Is only the truth

    In the eye of meanness
    of the public (pun: Gemeinheit -> Allgemeinheit, hints at 'the mean public')
    Simply reprehensible - transparent
    But it is deeper, stronger and much more
    thus man is only on the quest
    for strength, for the lie
    Blind madness
    And superficiality

    With bloodstained hands
    Wit a tear on the face
    A smile on the lips
    And hope deep in the eyes (or firmly in sight)
    To stand up even from the dirt
    Deeply stained and proud at heart
    Newly awakened to life
    And awoken fully new in life

    Are my hands blind and dumb?
    Are my eyes old and weak?
    Has my heart succumbed to the blood?
    And is it in all that just honest?
    Am I human?
    Am I pain?
    Am I the tear -
    And the kiss at the same time?
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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    Robin, Lacrimosa - Stolzes herz was not bad! I'll have to dig up a song I am trying to recall.

    Alex! I took hubby down memory lane last night. Ohhhh, he was like a little kid with a shiny new penny. Remembering his misspent youth.

    Here are a few of his favorite heavy metal songs. I'm listing all the songs and links and then the lyrics after:

    Def Leppard Love Bites (slow song)
    album: "Hysteria" (1987)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPU9az11si0 (lyrics also in video)

    Def Leppard Run Riot
    album: "Hysteria" (1987)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOD0odt7dN4

    Pretty Maids We Came To Rock
    album: "Future World" (1987)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzPssVyQVyE

    Pretty Maids - Eye Of The Storm (slow song)
    album: "Future World" (1987)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Risw-VQFflI


    Love Bites
    If you've got love in your sights
    Watch out, love bites

    When you make love, do you look in the mirror?
    Who do you think of?
    Does he look like me?
    Do you tell lies?
    And say that it's forever?
    Do you think twice, or just touch 'n' see?
    Ooh babe
    Ooh yeah
    When you're alone, do you let go?
    Are you wild 'n' willin' or is it just for show?
    Ooh c'mon

    I don't wanna touch you too much baby
    'cos making love to you might drive me crazy
    I know you think that love is the way you make it
    So i don't wanna be there when you decide to break it
    No!

    (love bites, love bleeds)
    It's bringin' me to my knees
    (love lives, love dies)
    It's no surprise
    (love begs, love pleads)
    It's what i need

    When i'm with you are you somewhere else?
    Am i gettin' thru or do you please yourself?
    When you wake up will you walk out?
    It can't be love if you throw it about
    Ooh babe
    I don't wanna touch you too much baby
    'cos making love to you might drive me crazy
    Oh

    Ooh yeah
    (love bites, love bleeds)
    It's bringin' me to my knees
    (love lives, love dies)
    (love bites, love bleeds)
    It's bringin' me to my knees
    (love lives, love dies)
    It's no surprise
    (love begs, love pleads)
    It's what i need

    If you've got love in your sights
    Watch out, love bites
    Yes it does
    It will be hell


    Run Riot
    Living by the law is a bloody necessary bore
    Everybody are you gettin' what you're lookin' for?
    Livin' by the rule is somethin' that you gotta do!
    But does it matter if we
    (break a rule or two?)
    Get up!
    Break out!
    Don't be the odd one out
    Livin' on the edge, i'm a tryin' to keep a level head
    (oh!) ev'ry morning it's a bummer gettin' out of bed
    Same old story does a nothin' ever ever change?
    Yeah, they lock me up and then they let me out again

    Get up!
    Break out!
    Don't be the odd one out
    C'mon, it's alright we're hot tonight

    You better run
    (run)
    (run riot)
    You gotta run
    (run)
    (run riot)
    You know the time has come
    (run)
    (run riot)
    I mean ev'ryone
    (run)
    (yeah, run riot)

    Oh, gotta riot babe
    Goin' thru the motions desperation guaranteed
    Whoa, get f-f-frustrated easily
    Pedal to the metal senses working overtime
    Oh, a fight to the finish babe
    Draw the line!

    (night night night)
    Run
    Speak to me!

    They lock me up, they let me out but i'm up and runnin'
    I scream and shout

    You better run
    (run)
    (run riot)
    You gotta run
    (run)
    (run riot)
    You know the time has come
    (run)
    (run riot)
    C'mon, run with me
    (run)
    (run riot)
    (run)
    (run riot)
    Hey!
    I'll take you from your misery
    C'mon!
    Stick with me!


    We Came To Rock
    If you're feeling out of nowhere
    If you got no place to go
    If you're feeling lost and lonely
    When you're down the open road

    Oh come on join our show
    Here we go

    Did they preach you words of wisdom
    Did they fill your head with lies
    Did they try to break the doorways
    To the world behind your eyes

    Oh, I want to know

    We came to rock
    We came to rock
    We came to rock
    We came to rock

    Are you burning with the fever
    Are you ready to explode
    Can you feel the magic power in your heart
    When you hear my voice is calling, calling

    Oh come join our show

    [Chorus]

    We are the faces
    We are the guardians of the night
    We'll rock the ages
    It's all right
    We've seen the fire
    We are defenders of your rights
    We'll take you higher
    Gonna take you to the sky

    We'll rock until the morning light
    We'll rock into your soul
    We're gonna hit the stars tonight
    We came to rock
    To rock and roll

    [Chorus]


    Eye Of The Storm
    Dreams of a lifetime
    Thrills from long ago
    These years of joy now have flown
    Silhouettes in a mirror
    I'll recognise her face
    Ten thousand years out in space

    She
    She meant everything to me
    Scarlet woman with eyes of gold
    She's out on the edge of my dream

    Venus arising
    Planet caravans
    Create a cosmic romance
    Like a touch of her spirit
    Voices from the past
    Just like a spell that's been cast

    I've been walking through tears and pain
    Every time I catch her breath
    Oh, but I still do remain

    In the eye of the storm
    In the eye of the storm

    Seasons are changing
    Winter of my life
    The memories still survive
    And the dreams of my love
    Are coming down like rain
    Every time I call out her name

    And she
    She meant everything to me
    Scarlet woman with eyes of gold
    She
    She's out on the edge of my dreams

    In the eye of the storm
    In the eye of the storm
    Eye of the storm

    I am no stranger
    No stranger to love any more
    I've tried it all
    So many times before
    And I've been going through changes
    But I can't fight this feeling
    And I'm still dreaming on
    And on and on...

    [Chorus]
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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    Quote Originally Posted by bitpicker
    Quote Originally Posted by Johanna
    @Bitpicker do you know about Vysotskij? Have you heard any good covers of him in German? Lots of Swedish and Finnish artists have done covers of him and it wouldn't surprise me if there are some great covers in German too - bigger language!
    No, never even heard the name before. And the German Wikipedia entry doesn't contain a hint at German cover versions either.
    Here are translations: http://www.wysotsky.com/1031.htm Там некоторые песни с аудио.

    Сайт на немецком: http://www.vladimir-vysotsky.de/frameset.htm
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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    oops, I forgot that the spelling of the name has to be different in German. I tried listening to one of the mp3s on the German site. But actually, it's in Russian, original recording.

    I thought his songs would sound good in German. But it looks like there are only text translations --- no actual covers in German.

    Perhaps you need to live in a cold country where people drink a lot, in order to really appreciate Vysotsky. Otherwise I don't know why he isn't known in DE. When I made a search of the German transliteration of his name I came across lots of covers in Polish.

    See links above - Lampada has created a very comprehensive thread about Vysotsky in the music lounge. I can't recommend his music enough.

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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    Could be an aftereffect of the Cold War period. The Scandinavian countries were closer to Russia, whereas Germany used to have a border running through the middle of the country, separating it into two states. Here in the West there was practically no knowledge of Russian culture at all. I remember that the Russian Heavy Metal band Gorky Park was as exotic to us as a band from Africa would have been.

    Indeed, come to think of it, cover versions might have existed in the former Eastern German Republic, but after reunification much of their culture mostly disappeared overnight. And I suppose their government was trying to be holier than the pope, too, so they might have suppressed things which might have been possible in Russia as far as political lyrics were concerned. Germans what can I say? If we do it, we need to do it better than everyone else.

    Now of course we have 3 million native speakers of Russian in the country, they make for the second largest immigrant group after the Turks if my numbers are correct. Today we have Russian and Polish nights in clubs or even clubs which primarily cater to one or the other nationality.

    And another aspect: the national music industry wasn't always strong. When I was young, German music was mostly 'Schlager' for the old. Then came the New Wave of German pop music (Neue Deutsche Welle), after that nothing for a long time, and only relatively recently did German bands like Rosenstolz, Silbermond, Juli, Rammstein etc. achieve widespread fame. Music with lyrics in German simply wasn't fashionable for quite a while. Therefore, German versions of foreign songs, though they did exist, usually were in the 'Schlager' category. Not exactly the right place for intellectual lyrics.

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    Bitpicker, interesting to read!
    About the English-language German groups of the 1980s
    Haha - who can forget kitschy "Alphaville", Sandra, Nena... Nina Hagen...?

    "Forever Young" or "Big in Japan"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIU04k0o4MI must have been one of the first singles I ever bought. There WAS good music made in the German language back then - at least some that I liked. I had some good mixed tapes... but I can't remember the names of the groups anymore. Kraftwerk was one of them though.

    Swedish media had the policy of splitting content from East and West. German was the top foreign langauge on TV after English. So I might even have watched more DDR TV than you did. Particularly Sandmann! They made some pretty good documentaries and criminal dramas too.

    Yeah, Germany feels a lot more cosmopolitan now, like you say. I travel to Frankfurt sometimes for work, and I have a good friend in Hamburg. Haven't seen the "new" Berlin though! I remember family drives through DE as a kid (to get to the Alps!) and things seemed quite old fashioned / traditional outside the cities. There was a faster route for us through the DDR, via Sassnitz - but most of the times we travelled through the BRD anyway.

    It's "good" in a way that the new "power house" of Europe has the experience of having been split -- so far it continues to be the "kind giant" in Europe, hopefully never wanting to be the "bad guy" again. I feel really positive towards Germany.

    Hey, did you hear about the German foreign minister who refused to speak English with the BBC? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5zqt0Jr-Gg I thought it was funny! Did he explain what his exact motivation was? What did you think?

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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    So I might even have watched more DDR TV than you did. Particularly Sandmann!
    That goes without saying, we didn't get any DDR TV. The DDR Sandmann, however, has survived, is still shown today and was better than ours. That, and the men on the traffic lights for pedestrians.

    Hey, did you hear about the German foreign minister who refused to speak English with the BBC? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5zqt0Jr-Gg I thought it was funny! Did he explain what his exact motivation was? What did you think?
    He wasn't foreign minister yet when he said that, but it was clear he would be. He said that when in Germany, you speak German. It has been said that his English is awful.

    But ministers aren't selected based on merit or capability.

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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    Quote Originally Posted by bitpicker
    The DDR Sandmann, however, has survived, is still shown today and was better than ours. That, and the men on the traffic lights for pedestrians.
    Robin
    Okay, I admit I have been out of sorts the past couple of days and the elevator may still not be going all the way to the top and all...but... what is/was the DDR Sandmann???
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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    I suppose you know the story of the sandman, whose dust makes children sleep and the remnant of which you find in your eyes in the mornings? Both the Federal Republic of Germany and the German Democratic Republic used to have a version of that story as a TV show for children. In the evening there would be a short film showing the sandman visiting children somewhere in the world, his dust would make them dream, which means that some other short film for children would be shown, and after that film the sandman would take his leave of the children. There's a children's TV channel even today which still shows the old GDR sandman shows at the end of its daily broadcast.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59_MUJL8bHc

    This 'video' has a picture of the Western sandman to the left and the Eastern one (the same as shown in all of Germany today) to the right. Youtube searches on the term Sandmännchen may show you more examples.

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    The thing that I liked about Sandmann was that he always travelled in a different "cool" vehicles. Plus the theme song was very catchy. In Swedish and Norwegian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijgtvroA2ls
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU1pdKZ-Plo

    I saw a video of the German foreign minister speaking English and it wasn't very bad. But the event was interesting because it's a nuisance to have to speak English against ones will, in ones own country. I thought he was making a statement about that, but perhaps he was more concerned about criticism about his own English skills... I personally think the EU should adopt a neutral language as our lingua Franca. Much fairer and more practical. Esperanto can be learnt in a fraction of the time that it takes to learn good English.

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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    Quote Originally Posted by bitpicker
    And while I'm at it, here's another favourite of mine from the new album by Слот, hopelessly mistranslated by myself:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZETlqxS3Svk

    Mirrors

    Night
    From wall to wall
    I walk in a forgotten dream
    There to...
    On the search for myself
    I was somewhere there
    I lost - didn't find
    I called - I called all (or: I called 'enough') / Звала... всё звала...
    The meaning of "Звала... всё звала... " is "I called and called again and again (all the time) but nobody answered me"
    So I would translate it like:
    I called again and again, but I heard only an echo.

    In the light of day I will paint the mirrors dark
    No matter I'm not in them
    So I'll believe I'm alive
    Even if it is not so

    So [tick, tock, tick...]
    The hands (of a watch) are sleeping somewhere [in a row]
    Don't walk and don't stand still [hide]
    They are gone [like nothing]
    The face (of the watch) is empty [wait, wait] ('Zifferblatt' is a loan word from German. Cool... )
    There's nowhere to go [go, go]
    Fly to the new emptiness of the year [pardon]
    And we cannot be saved ( or "we will not save") [from fall]
    we will fall (Actually there is no "fall" there, but it fits as one of possible variants for this case)
    Иногда потрясающие вещи находятся в неожиданных местах.
    Sometimes tremendous things are found in unexpected places
    Please, correct my mistakes

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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    Thanks for the corrections, Katerina, it wasn't as bad as I expected. However, you kept my misinterpretation of лети in there, so it should probably be:

    There's nowhere to go [go, go]
    Fly to the new emptiness * [pardon]
    And we cannot be saved ( or "we will not save") [from fall]
    we will fall (Actually there is no "fall" there, but it fits as one of possible variants for this case)

    * dropped "of the year" from here.

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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    Quote Originally Posted by bitpicker
    Thanks for the corrections, Katerina, it wasn't as bad as I expected. However, you kept my misinterpretation of лети in there, so it should probably be:

    There's nowhere to go [go, go]
    Fly to the new emptiness * [pardon]
    And we cannot be saved ( or "we will not save") [from fall]
    we will fall (Actually there is no "fall" there, but it fits as one of possible variants for this case)

    * dropped "of the year" from here.

    Robin
    Russian original use “лети” I suppose that “drop” is closer to “сорваться” than “падать”. I prefer “падать” because I think it saves the hope for person “not to be prostrate” in this case. As for me I’d like to see in Russian text some positive. You can decide yourself what you want to stay there.
    Иногда потрясающие вещи находятся в неожиданных местах.
    Sometimes tremendous things are found in unexpected places
    Please, correct my mistakes

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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    I meant I dropped 'of the year' as a mistranslation of лети, while it actually means 'fly' - you added the 'fly' but left my incorrect translation in there.

    Robin
    Спасибо за исправления!

    Вам нравится этот форум, и вы изучаете немецкий язык? Вот похожий форум о немецком языке.

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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    Quote Originally Posted by bitpicker
    I meant I dropped 'of the year' as a mistranslation of лети, while it actually means 'fly' - you added the 'fly' but left my incorrect translation in there.

    Robin
    This situation amused me a bit.

    Actually, I considered "Fly to the new emptiness of the year" like metaphor.
    It is something like this in Russian:
    Лети к пустоте начала отсчета/времен/нового года жизни.
    There is not it in the original text but the idea of this is the same.
    Иногда потрясающие вещи находятся в неожиданных местах.
    Sometimes tremendous things are found in unexpected places
    Please, correct my mistakes

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    Re: Music: Cutting Edge and What You Are Listening To?

    Quote Originally Posted by bitpicker
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59_MUJL8bHc

    This 'video' has a picture of the Western sandman to the left and the Eastern one (the same as shown in all of Germany today) to the right. Youtube searches on the term Sandmännchen may show you more examples.
    Robin
    Okay, now all I understood was the "ahhhh" by the kids, I guess complaining about going to bed, and the "alvederzane" at the end. You feel up to posting the lyrics in English for us? They sound very cute!

    This is the song I think of when I hear "Mr. Sandman" and it was before my time mind you!!! 1954! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8F-yDngEs0
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