I asked a friend what is the gerund form of "to run", and he gave me a strange look and said "what the f--k are you talking about?"
I got a similar response when I asked about participles.
Apparently the average American does not know all the technical terms for the different verb forms.
If I ask the average Russian person a question like "why is the instrumental case used here instead of the genitive case?" would they understand the question?
Какая разница, умереть богатым или бедным?
Какой толк от богатства если ты не счастлив.
If you ask it in English - you'll get the same response
Probably. But don't expect a sensible answer from anyone but the folks trained to teach Russian as a foreign language. Native speakers say things this or that way because, well, huh, that's the way one says it.Originally Posted by kwatts59
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I still remember names of all cases (in Russian, I have no idea what instrumental case is, творительный?) but I would have no idea why is it used instead of genitive (винительный?)
They might understand the question, but the answer would most likely be "because it's the answer to a different question". It sounds cryptic but it makes perfect sense when you remember that natives of any language learn grammar from the point of view of better understanding a language they already know instinctively. It's exactly the opposite way around for foreigners, so the methodology is different.
Though that's still better than most English-speakers would manage if asked to explain a bit of English grammar to a foreigner.
I do not know rules neither in Russian nor in English.
Wouldn't be even able to ask something like that.
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I think they would. "Average" people having brains - certainly.
They who understand you and won't say go and do something indecent for sure are philologists. I am one of them.
«И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».
Once I asked my ESL teacher why perfect continues is used here, not just perfect, and she couldn't explain. She advised that I believed her native speaker's feelings, which I did. But I still wanted to know why.they would. "Average" people having brains - certainly.
They who understand you and won't say go and do something indecent for sure are philologists. I am one of them.
that is a simple caseOnce I asked my ESL teacher why perfect continues is used here, not just perfect, and she couldn't explain. She advised that I believed her native speaker's feelings, which I did. But I still wanted to know why.they would. "Average" people having brains - certainly.
They who understand you and won't say go and do something indecent for sure are philologists. I am one of them.
I catch fish = я ловлю рыбу регулярно (каждую субботу скажем), но сейчас я сижу на диване и пью пиво
I am catching fish = прямо сейчас я сижу и ловлю рыбу, заткнись идиот, ты мне весь улов распугаешь!
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I wonder what certificate she has got. What I spoke of is real specialists.Once I asked my ESL teacher why perfect continues is used here, not just perfect, and she couldn't explain. She advised that I believed her native speaker's feelings, which I did. But I still wanted to know why.they would. "Average" people having brains - certainly.
They who understand you and won't say go and do something indecent for sure are philologists. I am one of them.
«И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».
You're not in command of the subject. Vesh meant perfect tenses.that is a simple caseOnce I asked my ESL teacher why perfect continues is used here, not just perfect, and she couldn't explain. She advised that I believed her native speaker's feelings, which I did. But I still wanted to know why.they would. "Average" people having brains - certainly.
They who understand you and won't say go and do something indecent for sure are philologists. I am one of them.
I catch fish = я ловлю рыбу регулярно (каждую субботу скажем), но сейчас я сижу на диване и пью пиво
I am catching fish = прямо сейчас я сижу и ловлю рыбу, заткнись идиот, ты мне весь улов распугаешь!
Vesh, you can write the thing that confused you and we'll make an attwmpt to explain it.
«И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».
perfect continues vs perfect.that is a simple caseOnce I asked my ESL teacher why perfect continues is used here, not just perfect, and she couldn't explain. She advised that I believed her native speaker's feelings, which I did. But I still wanted to know why.they would. "Average" people having brains - certainly.
They who understand you and won't say go and do something indecent for sure are philologists. I am one of them.
I catch fish = я ловлю рыбу регулярно (каждую субботу скажем), но сейчас я сижу на диване и пью пиво
I am catching fish = прямо сейчас я сижу и ловлю рыбу, заткнись идиот, ты мне весь улов распугаешь!
"I've lived in CA since 1999." vs "I've been living in CA since 1999."
ooops, вот что значит моя необразованность. Это сложнее, но тоже можно:
Первое предложение несколько неправильно, я думаю. Должно быть:
"I've lived in CA for 5 years" = к настоящему моменту я прожил в Калифорнии 5 лет, но сейчас я там не живу (действие завершено)
Второе предложение:
"Я живу в Калифорнии с 1999-го года, и сейчас продолжаю там жить".
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Думаю, ты ошибаешься. Перфект вовсе не обязательно подразумевает завершенность действия.Первое предложение несколько неправильно, я думаю. Должно быть:
"I've lived in CA for 5 years" = к настоящему моменту я прожил в Калифорнии 5 лет, но сейчас я там не живу (действие завершено)
Но xотелось бы послушать носителей языка.
неа, не ошибаюсь. Возможны исключения, но основное правило это. Действие должно быть завершено к моменту разговора.
I have driven to San-Francisco for 2 hours (и вот я уже приехал)
I have been driven to SF for 2 hours (я уже за рулем 2 часа, и все еще еду)
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Вообще-то разница между простым и длительным перфектом в том, что первый подразумевает законченность действия в прошлом, а второй его продолжительность даже в момент речи. Факт.
«И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».
I lived in Narofominsk for 5 years.
Точное указание срока - Simple Past Tense
Perfect - моя вторая тихая ненависть после артиклей
Это потому, что перфект и прошедшее простое используется также, как и артикли. Тоже, кстати, факт, зафиксиованный в подробных пособиях по грамматике.
«И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».
Wrong. You do need perfect here.
Unfortunately I instinctively avoid using perfect in my speech. A lot of non-native speakers do.
Indra is partially right. I mean her sentense makes sense. But that was in the past in general, without linking to current moment at all.Wrong. You do need perfect here.
Unfortunately I instinctively avoid using perfect in my speech. A lot of non-native speakers do.
I lived in Narofominsk for 5 years = Я прожила в Нарофоминске 5 лет
I have lived in Narofominst for 5 years = Вот, устраиваюсь в Москве, а до этого я 5 лет прожила в Нарофоминске
I have been living in Narofominst for 5 years = Я тут живу уже 5 лет.
Кстати, упущена еще одна форма, которая меня смущала поначалу:
I used to go to that school = Я (бывало) ходил в ту школу
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