Thread: Vocab List

I work in the restaurant.
Я работаю в ресторане.

I am going to the restaurant.
Я иду в ресторан.

я хочу что-то поесть.
I want a bite of something.
(This implies you have an idea of what you want to eat)

я хочу что-нибудь поесть.
I want a bite of anything.
(This just says you want to eat anything - a hamburger, a cow, a dog, a tree)

что-то/что-нибудь can be used as the noun of a sentence (nominative) or as the direct object of a sentence (accusative).
In the above examples, что-то/что-нибудь are the direct object of the sentence.

чего-нибудь is the genitive form of что-нибудь
I cannot think of an example where you would use чего-нибудь.

Вы хотели бы что-нибудь поесть?
Would you like to eat anything?

Я хочу кое-что поесть
I want a little-something to eat.

чего-нибудь is the genitive form of что-нибудь
I cannot think of an example where you would use чего-нибудь.

Так стоят ли чего-нибудь мозги академика?

I just pulled that off of google.

I think it's something along the lines of: "Are the minds of academicians worth anything?"

Originally Posted by kwatts59

чего-нибудь is the genitive form of что-нибудь
I cannot think of an example where you would use чего-нибудь.

I use чего-нибудь with поесть. Что-нибудь sounds weird to me.

Originally Posted by kwatts59

(This just says you want to eat anything - a hamburger, a cow, a dog, a tree)

HEY! Leave the trees alone!!!!

Me thinks you have an unhealthy love/hate relationship with trees.
HIPPY!!!!
-Fantom

Originally Posted by fantom605

Me thinks you have an unhealthy love/hate relationship with trees.
HIPPY!!!!
-Fantom

When you live next to trees the size like the one in my avatar (that is me next to it, BTW), how can you not love them... let alone marry them?!?

I'd marry a tree if the opportunity arose.

Originally Posted by laxxy

I use чего-нибудь with поесть. Что-нибудь sounds weird to me.

Interesting. Both sound equally OK to me.

Originally Posted by Friendy

Originally Posted by laxxy

I use чего-нибудь with поесть. Что-нибудь sounds weird to me.

Interesting. Both sound equally OK to me.

They're both OK to me too.

Originally Posted by net surfer

Originally Posted by Friendy

Originally Posted by laxxy

I use чего-нибудь with поесть. Что-нибудь sounds weird to me.

Interesting. Both sound equally OK to me.

They're both OK to me too.

well... (thinking about it)... No, it still sounds strange.
"Я хочу поесть картошку". weird. Maybe regional of course (I'm from Kiev).

Actually: i think there might be a difference:
-"Я хочу картошку": (I want the potatoes), e.g. I have an bag of potatoes and a bag of cabbage, and I want the potatoes.
-"Я хочу картошки": (I want (some) potatoes), e.g. I want (to eat) some potatoes.
"поесть" (as opposed to say "съесть") is only used with the second meaning, so I think it should require the genitive.

Originally Posted by laxxy

Originally Posted by net surfer

Originally Posted by Friendy

Originally Posted by laxxy

I use чего-нибудь with поесть. Что-нибудь sounds weird to me.

Interesting. Both sound equally OK to me.

They're both OK to me too.

well... (thinking about it)... No, it still sounds strange.
"Я хочу поесть картошку". weird. Maybe regional of course (I'm from Kiev).

Hm, aren't we talking about "Я хочу что-нибудь поесть" and "Я хочу чего-нибудь поесть"? Those both sound good. But with something particular (like in your example) it sounds not very good. Umm... I think if we change the word order "я хочу картошку поесть", it will be much better.

[quote=net surfer]

Originally Posted by laxxy

Originally Posted by "net surfer":325l1f9p

Originally Posted by Friendy

Originally Posted by laxxy

I use чего-нибудь with поесть. Что-нибудь sounds weird to me.

Interesting. Both sound equally OK to me.

They're both OK to me too.

well... (thinking about it)... No, it still sounds strange.
"Я хочу поесть картошку". weird. Maybe regional of course (I'm from Kiev).

Hm, aren't we talking about "Я хочу что-нибудь поесть" and "Я хочу чего-нибудь поесть"? Those both sound good. But with something particular (like in your example) it sounds not very good. Umm... I think if we change the word order "я хочу картошку поесть", it will be much better.[/quote:325l1f9p]

Well, to me "Я хочу что-нибудь поесть" still sounds a little weird (not too bad though). But you persuaded me, if other people think its fine, it's probably fine.
Also: "Колорадский жук поел всю картошку" Also fine (although a bit different meaning of "поесть").

I don't persuade anyone. I just said that both forms sound OK to me.

Originally Posted by net surfer

I don't persuade anyone. I just said that both forms sound OK to me.

well i said that Pimsleur made a mistake and that people do not speak like that; now if that sounds OK to you then at least some people probably do.
I still stand on the "кое-что" though.

So... sorry to bring this up again. I made the misake of listening to Pimsleur too, and need to correct myself if I'm wrong! Which of the following are OK, and which of the following are bad?

1) Я хочу кое-что поесть.
2) Я хочу что-нибудь поесть.
3) Я хочу что-то поесть.

Спасибо!

Originally Posted by mikej

So... sorry to bring this up again. I made the misake of listening to Pimsleur too, and need to correct myself if I'm wrong! Which of the following are OK, and which of the following are bad?

1) Я хочу кое-что поесть.
2) Я хочу что-нибудь поесть.
3) Я хочу что-то поесть.

Спасибо!

I think it was discussed in this thread above, but as a summary:

1). Wrong. Well, not necessarily wrong, but meaning "I want to eat something but I am not going to tell you what". Even in this case, the genitive ("кое-чего") would sound better (to me at least).
2-3). Apparently there is some disagreement; I think these are a bit weird and would signal that you are a foreigner; but some ppl think they are ok. I'd still suggest that you use the genitive ("я хочу чего-нибудь поесть") just to be safe.

It becomes more obvious if you use it with a noun rather than "что-нибудь":
-гости пришли и поели картошки (gen) - the guests came and ate some potatoes
-гости пришли и поели (всю) картошку (acc) - the (censored) guests came and ate (all) the potatoes

Originally Posted by mikej

So... sorry to bring this up again. I made the misake of listening to Pimsleur too, and need to correct myself if I'm wrong! Which of the following are OK, and which of the following are bad?

1) Я хочу кое-что поесть.
2) Я хочу что-нибудь поесть.
3) Я хочу что-то поесть. Спасибо!

Все предложения правильные. Зависит от контекста. 1. и 3. близки по значению.
Например:
1. Я хочу кое-что поесть. Предполагает, что говорящий знает, что он хочет поесть. Something definite, but speaker does not want to elaborate.
Пошли в этот ресторан. Я хочу, чтобы ты там кое-что попробовал.
2. Я хочу что-нибудь поесть. Предполагает, что говорящему всё-равно, лишь бы что-то поесть. Anything.
Что там у тебя есть в холодильнике. Я хочу что-нибудь поесть
3. Я хочу что-то поесть. Это не совсем что-то неопределённое, говорящий знает что или где он собирается есть. Something definite, but could be anything.
Торопись, если ты хочешь успеть что-то поесть, столовую в 2 закрывают.

Originally Posted by Lampada

Originally Posted by mikej

So... sorry to bring this up again. I made the misake of listening to Pimsleur too, and need to correct myself if I'm wrong! Which of the following are OK, and which of the following are bad?

1) Я хочу кое-что поесть.
2) Я хочу что-нибудь поесть.
3) Я хочу что-то поесть. Спасибо!

Все предложения правильные. Зависит от контекста. 1. и 3. близки по значению.
Например:
1. Я хочу кое-что поесть. Предполагает, что говорящий знает, что он хочет поесть. Something definite, but speaker does not want to elaborate.
Пошли в этот ресторан. Я хочу, чтобы ты там кое-что попробовал.

this example is fine, but this is not the context they were using it in in the Pimsleur course. IIRC, there it was like "vy hotite poest' chto-nibud'? - da, ja hochu poest' koe-chto".

just wondering, but to say 'at my place' can't you say:
кo мне ???? Or did i learn that wrong...??

~jessi

Originally Posted by jessi

just wondering, but to say 'at my place' can't you say:
кo мне ???? Or did i learn that wrong...??

~jessi

you can, why not? But it depends on the phrase; "poidem ko mne poobedaem" does mean "let's have a lunch at my place", but if you wanted to say "we are having a lunch at my place" you'd need to use "u menja".
Things are never translated 1:1.