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    Verbs of Motion with Accusative

    Ok, I started accusative case with my book. It really didn't give me the endings for any accusative nouns...at all. So far, all I know (From before I let off russian) Is that All accusative plurals are the same as their genitive plurals, and in the singular, masculine nouns are same unless they're animate, which then they add -a. But in the singular, feminine nouns change all the time. A-У Я-Ю. But the book started sneaking in Verbs of motion, and it gave me an excercise where I have to fill in the blank with the correct form of the given word. But the problem is, the book didn't really explain verbs of motion too well, and the sentences have words in it that the author did not at all give a vocab list for. Should I even bother with verbs of motion now? Should I even bother with such a crappy excercise?

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    I think the point of the exercises is not to introduce verbs of motion, but to help you practice the accusative endings.

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    Accusative case:
    Change all the A's to У's and all the Я's to Ю's for the feminine nouns.
    There is no ending for neutral nouns.
    There is no ending for masculine, inanimate nouns.
    Add a 'A' to the end of all masculine animate nouns.
    Plural endings remain the same except for masc animate.
    Change 'Ы' or 'И' to 'ОВ' or 'ЕЙ' to the end of all animate nouns.

    IMHO, do the excercises a million times 'till you are so sick of it, that you puke. It does not matter exactly what the words mean but read the English equivalent so that you have an idea of what you are writing.
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    Add a 'A' to the end of all masculine animate nouns
    я люблю моего учителЯ. If it ends in ь, add я.

    Plural endings remain the same except for masc animate.
    я люблю собак. If it's animate accusative plural, it declines like genetive plural, regardless of gender.

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    Re: Verbs of Motion with Accusative

    Quote Originally Posted by Orpheus
    Ok, I started accusative case with my book. It really didn't give me the endings for any accusative nouns...at all. So far, all I know (From before I let off russian) Is that All accusative plurals are the same as their genitive plurals, and in the singular, masculine nouns are same unless they're animate, which then they add -a. But in the singular, feminine nouns change all the time. A-У Я-Ю. But the book started sneaking in Verbs of motion, and it gave me an excercise where I have to fill in the blank with the correct form of the given word. But the problem is, the book didn't really explain verbs of motion too well, and the sentences have words in it that the author did not at all give a vocab list for. Should I even bother with verbs of motion now? Should I even bother with such a cra@@y excercise?
    Skip the hard stuff if it's too hard - I don't agree with other posters saying you have to learn until you puke. You should enjoy what you're doing.

    1) You can post the difficult passages here on the forum and ask to translate them for you.
    2) Not all textbooks are good and if explaining simple things they drag you into a very complex area, try concentrating and understanding the simple things.

    I might guess what was in your textbook.

    When you talk about going somewhere (verbs of motion), very often Accusative is used:

    I am going/walking to school - Я иду в школу.
    I am driving/going (by car) to the mountains - Я еду в горы.

    Don't assume that "в" is always followed by Accusative.

    I am in the zoo - Я в зоопарке. (Prepositional) (EDIT: fixed the error)
    I am going to the zoo - Я иду/еду в зоопарк. (Accusative)

    Complex grammatical concepts are better understood in the context with lots of examples. If you understand it only vaguely for now, it's OK. As you progress in your text and read more examples, it will get easier.
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    Re: Verbs of Motion with Accusative

    Quote Originally Posted by Анатолий
    Don't assume that "в" is always followed by Accusative.

    I am in the zoo - Я в зоопарке. (Dative)
    I am going to the zoo - Я иду/еду в зоопарк. (Accusative)
    I am in the zoo - Я в зоопарке. (Prepositional)
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    Re: Verbs of Motion with Accusative

    Quote Originally Posted by Darobat
    Quote Originally Posted by Анатолий
    Don't assume that "в" is always followed by Accusative.

    I am in the zoo - Я в зоопарке. (Dative)
    I am going to the zoo - Я иду/еду в зоопарк. (Accusative)
    I am in the zoo - Я в зоопарке. (Prepositional)
    Yes, you're right, sorry.
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    Kk....sounds hard. I think I should wait untill later and stuff for that, I get the gist of it kinda, but I'm going to skip it for now and go back to it when I'm more progressed in my russian. I started adectives...oh the joy!

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