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    How you write it and how you pronounce it!

    Is my observation correct?:
    Russian is a language that is pronounced very much the way it is written.
    Exceptions seem to be when some letters are not pronounced.
    The pronunciation of this one: яз is more like: йз

    What do you think?

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    The pronunciation of this one: яз is more like: йз
    I hink it's more: йиз

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    You're almost right. We are used to pronounce a great deal of words just as we write them, but there are a few exceptions. For an instanse:

    spelling: Солнце, prononciation: Сонце (omitting the letter л)
    spelling: Что, prononciation: Што (changing Ч into Ш)

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    Re: How you write it and how you pronounce it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Oggi
    Is my observation correct?:
    Russian is a language that is pronounced very much the way it is written.
    Exceptions seem to be when some letters are not pronounced.
    The pronunciation of this one: яз is more like: йз

    What do you think?
    You are talking about язык and the reason for the reduction is because the я is unstressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuvak
    You're almost right. We are used to pronounce a great deal of words just as we write them, but there are a few exceptions. For an instanse:

    spelling: Солнце, prononciation: Сонце (omitting the letter л)
    spelling: Что, prononciation: Што (changing Ч into Ш)

    spelling: сердце - prononciation: серце
    spelling: поздно - prononciation: позно
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remyisme
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuvak
    You're almost right. We are used to pronounce a great deal of words just as we write them, but there are a few exceptions. For an instanse:

    spelling: Солнце, prononciation: Сонце (omitting the letter л)
    spelling: Что, prononciation: Што (changing Ч into Ш)

    spelling: сердце - prononciation: серце
    spelling: поздно - prononciation: позно
    Чувствовать - first В not pronounced
    Здравствуйте - first B not pronounced
    Бог - pronounced Бох
    Мягкий - pronounced Мяхкий
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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    Quote Originally Posted by Remyisme
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuvak
    You're almost right. We are used to pronounce a great deal of words just as we write them, but there are a few exceptions. For an instanse:

    spelling: Солнце, prononciation: Сонце (omitting the letter л)
    spelling: Что, prononciation: Што (changing Ч into Ш)

    spelling: сердце - prononciation: серце
    spelling: поздно - prononciation: позно
    Чувствовать - first В not pronounced
    Здравствуйте - first B not pronounced
    Бог - pronounced Бох
    Мягкий - pronounced Мяхкий

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    Typo!
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    Корова произносится карова.

    Stressed "a" gives a sound that actually is a bit different than unstressed "a" and than unstressed "o". Unstressed "a" and unstressed "o" are probably the same.

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    Re: How you write it and how you pronounce it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Oggi
    Is my observation correct?:
    Russian is a language that is pronounced very much the way it is written.
    Yes, and that's intentional - we actually bother to synchronize our spelling with pronunciation once in a while.

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    well there's the thing with all the звонкие шумные (at the end of the word they become глухие)

    друг -druk'
    пляж - pljash
    кровь - krof'

    these phonemes for example are pronounced in an entirely different way at the end of the word, they lose their characteristical sound

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    пляж - pljash
    тут слышится ж.. что-то между ш и ж, не чистое ш

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    Re: How you write it and how you pronounce it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Oggi
    Is my observation correct?:
    No.
    Russian is a language that is pronounced very much the way it is written.
    Maybe only compared to English. But that is not that big an achievement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri
    пляж - pljash
    тут слышится ж.. что-то между ш и ж, не чистое ш
    It means that you are listening to non-standard Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laxxy
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri
    пляж - pljash
    тут слышится ж.. что-то между ш и ж, не чистое ш
    It means that you are listening to non-standard Russian.
    Я слышу нормальный русский. И я слышу среднее между ш и ж

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    Quote Originally Posted by groovychick
    well there's the thing with all the звонкие шумные (at the end of the word they become глухие)

    друг -druk'
    пляж - pljash
    кровь - krof'

    these phonemes for example are pronounced in an entirely different way at the end of the word, they lose their characteristical sound
    Not entirely differently, it's just without the vibration of the vocal cords. It's voicing/de-voicing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seventh-Monkey
    Quote Originally Posted by groovychick
    well there's the thing with all the звонкие шумные (at the end of the word they become глухие)

    друг -druk'
    пляж - pljash
    кровь - krof'

    these phonemes for example are pronounced in an entirely different way at the end of the word, they lose their characteristical sound
    Not entirely differently, it's just without the vibration of the vocal cords. It's voicing/de-voicing.
    Exactly. They are not completely different. And there shouldn't be an ' after the K.
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    Re: How you write it and how you pronounce it!

    Quote Originally Posted by laxxy
    Russian is a language that is pronounced very much the way it is written.
    Maybe only compared to English. But that is not that big an achievement
    In fact, it is quite an achievement, as it saves children precious time - they dont have to memorize too much spelling and may concentrate on more interesting activities.

    Imagine trying to drive from point A to point B using a map that is 800 years old - that's trying to read using ancient spelling for you.


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    Re: How you write it and how you pronounce it!

    Quote Originally Posted by HA
    Quote Originally Posted by laxxy
    Russian is a language that is pronounced very much the way it is written.
    Maybe only compared to English. But that is not that big an achievement
    In fact, it is quite an achievement, as it saves children precious time - they dont have to memorize too much spelling and may concentrate on more interesting activities.

    Imagine trying to drive from point A to point B using a map that is 800 years old - that's trying to read using ancient spelling for you.

    No, he was saying that it's not difficult for a language to be more phonetic than English.
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