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    1st day vowel pronouncation questions

    On MasterRussian's vowel pronouncation page, I'm not clear on a couple of points.

    On the second page, the pronouncation of И is described as "И as in meet". However, the summary chart at the bottom says И is "e as in pet". Which is it?

    I'm also unclear on the difference between Я and Ё. The latter is described as the "yo in yonder", but I pronounce yonder as "yahn-der", which would sound exactly identical to Я. Maybe I pronounce "yonder" differently than the author because I'm from the deep south

    Any clarification would be appreciated.

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    The summary chart is describing the sound for the letter when it is stressed.

    Я - 'ya'
    Ё - 'yo'

    I think 'yonder' there was a poor choice for a word.

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    "И as in meet" - correct

    Я as in yuck
    Ё as in your

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    Much obliged Thank you both.

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    Я as in "yuck" is wrong (American pronounciation), unless you pronounce the first syllable like "ya" as in "yacht".

    We could sit here all day and try to explain how things are pronounced, but its probably best to either move this to the "Audio Lounge" or for you to check out the audio samples on the other parts of this site.

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    Re: 1st day vowel pronouncation questions

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinThyme
    On the second page, the pronouncation of И is described as "И as in meet". However, the summary chart at the bottom says И is "e as in pet". Which is it?
    И is "ee" as in meet - correct
    И is e as in pet - WRONG!
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    It should be Э for e as in pet.

    The Я sound is closer to the Ya in 'Yahoo', not the British 'Yuh-hoo' way of saying it.
    Please correct any Russian language mistakes I make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by волк
    It should be Э for e as in pet.

    The Я sound is closer to the Ya in 'Yahoo', not the British 'Yuh-hoo' way of saying it.
    To be honest, Yahoo isn't a very British thing to say. Unless you are talking about the website, in which case, I'd say it like

    Ya(r)-hoo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    Quote Originally Posted by волк
    It should be Э for e as in pet.

    The Я sound is closer to the Ya in 'Yahoo', not the British 'Yuh-hoo' way of saying it.
    To be honest, Yahoo isn't a very British thing to say. Unless you are talking about the website, in which case, I'd say it like

    Ya(r)-hoo.
    Well I was trying to think of an American example, I haven't heard that way of saying it because of the reason you stated.

    The only other example I can think of is the Ya in 'Yankee' unless that's still pronounced 'Yahnkee'.
    Please correct any Russian language mistakes I make.

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    [quote=волк]
    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    Quote Originally Posted by "волк":3r7py9s1
    It should be Э for e as in pet.

    The Я sound is closer to the Ya in 'Yahoo', not the British 'Yuh-hoo' way of saying it.
    To be honest, Yahoo isn't a very British thing to say. Unless you are talking about the website, in which case, I'd say it like

    Ya(r)-hoo.
    Well I was trying to think of an American example, I haven't heard that way of saying it because of the reason you stated.

    The only other example I can think of is the Ya in 'Yankee' unless that's still pronounced 'Yahnkee'.[/quote:3r7py9s1]

    Yankee works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdk2fe
    Я as in "yuck" is wrong (American pronounciation)
    to be specific:

    Я as in "yuck" as pronounced in Midwest is correct, verified against native Midwestern and Russian speakers, also
    Я as in "yard"

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    Quote Originally Posted by HA
    Quote Originally Posted by tdk2fe
    Я as in "yuck" is wrong (American pronounciation)
    to be specific:

    Я as in "yuck" as pronounced in Midwest is correct, verified against native Midwestern and Russian speakers, also
    Я as in "yard"
    The reason why we don't like you using Yuck as an example is:

    1. It only applies to this Midwest pronunciation. The world doesn't stop outside America you know.
    2. We like using a Ya wordы, because Я at the end of the day, is Йа.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    The reason why we don't like you using Yuck as an example is:
    Well I agree with "don't like" more than with "is wrong".
    Anyway, English language is a joint enterprise, and our side of the pool owns enough stock in it to vote down anything we disagree with.


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    Re: 1st day vowel pronouncation questions

    Quote Originally Posted by kwatts59
    Quote Originally Posted by JustinThyme
    On the second page, the pronouncation of И is described as "И as in meet". However, the summary chart at the bottom says И is "e as in pet". Which is it?
    И is "ee" as in meet - correct
    И is e as in pet - WRONG!
    Correction: should be ee as in peet of course!
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    I think "Pete" would be a good example there. I can't imagine anyone pronouncing it differently (in any English accent) to "peet".
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    Re: 1st day vowel pronouncation questions

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterAdmin
    Quote Originally Posted by kwatts59
    Quote Originally Posted by JustinThyme
    On the second page, the pronouncation of И is described as "И as in meet". However, the summary chart at the bottom says И is "e as in pet". Which is it?
    И is "ee" as in meet - correct
    И is e as in pet - WRONG!
    Correction: should be ee as in peet of course!
    Is peet even a word?
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    'Course not, that's why I offered Pete.
    Ленин пил
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seventh-Monkey
    'Course not, that's why I offered Pete.
    Maybe he means "peat", as in that soil stuff.
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    Я сомневаюсь в том, что это слово звучит то же самое во всех акцентах английского языка.... Возьмем, например, Акцент Южно-Африканской Республики. Он весьма нелеп и силен...

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