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    two questions

    Этот вопрос мы уже один раз обсуждали.

    Why is обсуждали in the imperfect?

    Какую песню они сейчас пели.

    Why is пели in the past?

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    Re: two questions

    Quote Originally Posted by sperk
    Этот вопрос мы уже один раз обсуждали.

    Why is обсуждали in the imperfect?

    Какую песню они сейчас пели.

    Why is пели in the past?

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    1) imperfective here because (I think) the underlying meaning is that they have discussed it many times. "we've already discussed this at least once"

    2) Because they finished singing it "What was the song they just sang?"
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    Re: two questions

    Quote Originally Posted by sperk
    Этот вопрос мы уже один раз обсуждали.
    Why is обсуждали in the imperfect?
    There's slight difference in meaning. I'll try to explain. That's my opinion:

    It means that the question was discussed before but the result of that descussion isn't important or unknown. Generally that can be said when you have no desire to discuss it again and/or want to point out that there is no sense in dicussing it again.

    Этот вопрос мы уже один раз обсуждали. Так ничего и не придумали.

    The phrase "Этот вопрос мы уже обсудили" can be said when the result of the discussion has something to do with current events/situation. Or probably when as a result a desision was made.

    Этот вопрос мы уже обсудили. Давайте присупим к следующему.

    Какую песню они сейчас пели.

    Why is пели in the past?
    Because they finished to sing already. Сейчас here means "just before that moment".
    Compare: Что ты сейчас сказал? (you didn't hear what your friend just said).

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    Re: two questions

    Quote Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
    Quote Originally Posted by sperk
    Этот вопрос мы уже один раз обсуждали.
    Why is обсуждали in the imperfect?
    There's slight difference in meaning. I'll try to explain. Here's my opinion:

    It means that the question was discussed before but the result of that descussion isn't important or unknown. Generally that can be said when you have no desire to discuss it again and/or want to point out that there is no sense in dicussing it again.

    Этот вопрос мы уже один раз обсуждали. Так ничего и не придумали.

    The phrase "Этот вопрос мы уже обсудили" can be said when the result of the discussion has something to do with current events/situation. Or probably when as a result a desision was made.

    Этот вопрос мы уже обсудили. Давайте присупим к следующему.

    Какую песню они сейчас пели.

    Why is пели in the past?
    Because they finished singing already. Сейчас here means "just before that moment".
    Compare: Что ты сейчас сказал? (you didn't hear what your friend just said).
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    Re: two questions

    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    There's slight difference in meaning. I'll try to explain. Here's my opinion:

    Because they finished singing already. Сейчас here means "just before that moment".
    WOW! Somebody's correcting my mistakes. Thanks, kalinka!

    I found one as well:
    Этот вопрос мы уже обсудили. Давайте притсупим к следующему.

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    Re: two questions

    Quote Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
    I found one as well:
    Этот вопрос мы уже обсудили. Давайте притсупим к следующему.
    Um... you meant приступим?
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    Re: two questions

    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    Quote Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
    I found one as well:
    Этот вопрос мы уже обсудили. Давайте притсупим к следующему.
    Um... you meant приступим?
    Yes. Туплю сегодня.

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