Thread: Думские выборы 2011

Croc, you have perfectly explained what happened in the 80s but you have modestly passed the later events. The economic experiments of the leaders of USSR in 80s looks like child play in comparisson to the "experiments" (if they could be called so by any means) that were perfomed on people here in 90s. You have said that communists were trying to solve economic problems by attempt to restore НЭП policy and it's failed. Nice. But neither Lenin nor Gorby couldn't even imagine to make strategic industry branches and natural monopolies private! And not simply private like sell them through stock exchange to cover the gap in state budget but literally present the property on them to some random people. Залоговые аукционы, ёперный театр! So these new "owners" felt that this new property could be confiscated from them any time and were trying to gain as much quick profit from it as possible and weren't investing a kopeck in their companies. In result almost all former soviet plants and factories turned into warehouses now (where real estate costs something) or look very much like Chernobyl area. Industry is dead. Education is dead also: the level of incompetence everywhere is terrific. The level of pessimism among people seems very high. And btw, if we are speaking of KPRF's programm measures that they are suggesting to decrease the corruption level (I think that there is almost no way to make it any higher than current), they seem sufficient IMHO to burst small and medium buisness activity. (НЭП!) But the main reason that makes possible for me to vote Communists is the one: I want periodical goverment change through democratic elections in my country. Putin&Co are against me in this particular little desire of mine. And voting for communists is almost only option that left exept participating in arranging "colour" revolt or such stuff.

Originally Posted by Basil77

The economic experiments of the leaders of USSR in 80s looks like child play in comparisson to the "experiments" (if they could be called so by any means) that were perfomed on people here in 90s.

And I totally agree with that. We might perhaps disagree with the interpretation of those events (more specifically who was responsible), but I would definitely agree the 90s were a way less socially stable.

Originally Posted by Basil77

You have said that communists were trying to solve economic problems by attempt to restore НЭП policy and it's failed. Nice. But neither Lenin nor Gorby couldn't even imagine to make strategic industry branches and natural monopolies private! [...] Industry is dead. Education is dead also

True. But is that what the United Russia is going on doing or it had just been inherited as the legacy of the Yeltzin era? The damage had been done. Do we need another change that would cause another damage perhaps a way worse than the present? What I'm trying to build the parallel with is as following: the WWI had Russian Empire devastated and deteriorated in many ways. That surely gave the legitimacy to hate and despise the Crown regime. But what happened as a result of the Civil War could not by any means be compared to that. Does it make sense?

Originally Posted by Basil77

But the main reason that makes possible for me to vote Communists is the one: I want periodical goverment change through democratic elections in my country.

And that is [presently] your democratic right. But when the Communists will come to power again, what kind of assurance you have they will not cancel that very right of yours officially? It's the One Party concept, right? All the other parties might be officially banned and prosecuted. Remember Hitler? So, thinking just one step ahead, would voting for the Communists be a right move?