Thread: Western Propaganda aka клюква lol

You're confusing two separate issues. Communism as a political philosophy is abhorrent and dangerous. It violates the fundamentals of individualism, freedom, and private property rights. The movies and otherwise may have generalized every Russian as an "evil Communist." That's silly. Of course, they weren't, just like not every German was a Nazi. However, their vilification of the tyrannical government is certainly more accurate and warranted. Again, the Russian people are not their government, just like the American people are not their government. Much of the U.S. government is corrupt and incompetent. People can never be too free, so long as they don't infringe upon the rights of others. The Russian people can be more free and they should be more free, just like all people. I'm a conservative-libertarian if you can't tell already.

Originally Posted by shackleford

You're confusing two separate issues. Communism as a political philosophy is abhorrent and dangerous. It violates the fundamentals of individualism, freedom, and private property rights.

You sound as if there was something bad about it.

(See how a libertarian mind works - it assumes that individualism, freedom and private property rights are UNIVERSAL values and marks 'abhorrent and dangerous' anything that disagrees with that).

Originally Posted by Ramil

You sound as if there was something bad about it.

(See how a libertarian mind works - it assumes that individualism, freedom and private property rights are UNIVERSAL values universally valuable ...

Fixed that for you!

...and marks 'abhorrent and dangerous' anything that disagrees with that).

"Individualism" is a complex topic and I would agree that it's not inherently "abhorrent and dangerous" to challenge it or to argue that "individualism" must be balanced by socially-oriented, "communitarian" values. But history suggests to me that broad attacks on personal freedom or private-property rights have generally had abhorrent and dangerous consequences.