Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
I think that is too extreme a conspiracy....
I know Russia is Conspiracy Central No 1 so all I'll say is, no, hardly likely. It's too far fetched.
The phrase "To split Ukraine was a plan of all the three - Brussels, Moscow and Washington" doesn't necessarily imply a conspiracy it may be just the same goal that matches for all three. And in phrase "some ppl say there's an agreement and all this madness is just perfectly staged" there is some ppl say clause which you might have overlooked and those ppl are not necessarily russian.

And the US can't be trusted, surely Russia knows that by now, and wouldn't make a secret deal with the US, since it normally doesn't keep its end of the bargain. Remember what happened with the NATO expansion promise, and Yalta which was a legit agreement, then suddenly the West backed and started laying claim to areas outside its' agreed area. I don't think Russia would bother making a deal about it, and I think this was relatively unexpected for Russia too.
It might be that there was a scenario prepared and a script to follow for Crimea. Frankly it worked a little "too" well.... but that Russia had not anticipated quite the turn of events that expired in the Donbass. So for Donbass Russia had to improvise. Hence the long silence while Russia was figuring out how to handle it. My impression is that most of what happened in Donbass was relatively spontaneous, and Russia chose to mildly encourage it, until suddenly it appeared to make a u-turn and pretend it was not involved.
No one can be trusted, but. But here Putin went a bit further then before. Russia doesn't want to play bad guy's role any more. And the US cannot do anything about that.
All Putin has to do now is just to wait (not invading eastern ukraine, not giving money just doing nothing).


Listening to Victoria Nuland it's obvious that she is cynical and a real player to the core of her being. I hope this whole debacle costs her her career. What an unpleasant and snakey person.
Look at Psaki. I'm afraid the only requirement left for an applicant to get hired in US state departament is to be plain dumb.