Thread: "Russophobia" and "Russophilia" :)

Originally Posted by SergeMak

Wow! How brave it is to struggle against a "monster" that was defeated a quarter of century ago! But let me warn you that while you are revelling in kicking a dead lion a real monster is rising up behind you back. The US army killed about 200 000 civilian people during the 1st war in Iraq and more than a million during the second war. And the people of the US just closed their eyes on that, as well as they don't notice now how the Kievan neo-fascist junta burns civilian people with banned phosphorous bombs, supplied by the US in the South-East regions of Ukraine. It's very convenient to be pleasantly blind and see only those things that please your eyes. But don't have any illusions that this monster will not discard you life as it has already discarded millions of innocent lives all over the world when it sees fit. Remember: the bell tolls for you...

-> "as well as they don't notice now how the Kievan neo-fascist junta burns civilian people with banned phosphorous bombs, supplied by the US in the South-East regions of Ukraine. It's very convenient to be pleasantly blind and see only those things that please your eyes. "
You are a troll. Same as the other neo-Soviet posters. Why not just say who you are?

BS about 'neo-fascist' Kiev government is getting old. What is it about them that fits that description? Russia bans publications and has lots of censorship. There's more freedom in Ukraine than in Russia. That might change with the pro-Western EU dictatorship but saying they are 'neo-fascist' CURRENTLY is not just exaggeration, it's utter BS. Russia is a neo-soviet dictatorship right now but do you complain or talk about that? НЕТ! Until then, you are just a hypocrite parroting the same old rhetoric that your Kremlin media dictates to you. Learn to think for yourself, huh?

Originally Posted by 14Russian

There's more freedom in Ukraine than in Russia.

Have you been there?

Originally Posted by 14Russian

You are a troll. Same as the other neo-Soviet posters. Why not just say who you are?

Originally Posted by Lampada

Ханночка, не надо обзывать участников форума

Yankee Doodle-doodle-doo

Originally Posted by 14Russian

-> "as well as they don't notice now how the Kievan neo-fascist junta burns civilian people with banned phosphorous bombs, supplied by the US in the South-East regions of Ukraine. It's very convenient to be pleasantly blind and see only those things that please your eyes. "
You are a troll. Same as the other neo-Soviet posters. Why not just say who you are?

BS about 'neo-fascist' Kiev government is getting old. What is it about them that fits that description? Russia bans publications and has lots of censorship. There's more freedom in Ukraine than in Russia. That might change with the pro-Western EU dictatorship but saying they are 'neo-fascist' CURRENTLY is not just exaggeration, it's utter BS. Russia is a neo-soviet dictatorship right now but do you complain or talk about that? НЕТ! Until then, you are just a hypocrite parroting the same old rhetoric that your Kremlin media dictates to you. Learn to think for yourself, huh?

Is insult all you are capable of? Do you really think that insulting other members of the forum makes you look any smarter or somehow better? it's pathetic! I just don't care.
All I know, the bell tolls for you too.
PS. Russia is far from neo-Soviet. Russia has almost the same political and economical model of oligarchic monopolistic capitalism as Ukraine has, imputed by the IMF after the break-up of the Soviet Union. The only difference is that in Ukraine the oligarchs have completely subdued the state to their private needs, while in Russia they haven't succeeded that goal completely due to Putin's so-called "dictatorship".

Originally Posted by SergeMak

All I know, the bell tolls for you too.

So, the bell tolls for anyone who happens to disagree with your view of the world? You know, insulting someone just coz you two can't agree on something isn't good either, but it's still better than threatening. Think about that. Seriously.

Originally Posted by Eric C.

So, the bell tolls for anyone who happens to disagree with your view of the world? You know, insulting someone just coz you two can't agree on something isn't good either, but it's still better than threatening. Think about that. Seriously.

I am not threatening anybody. The bell tolls for everybody. If you don't know it's a quotation of John Donne - an English poet of the XVII century:
"No man is an Iland, intire of it selfe; every man is a peece of the Continent, a part of the maine; if a Clod bee washed away by the Sea, Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee."
Think of the deep philosophical meaning of this idea. If you think that you can be safe and happy in your comfortable country not noticing all the blood-shed and all the injustice that's going in the world, you're in a big trouble. Think about that. Seriously.

Originally Posted by SergeMak

Is insult all you are capable of? Do you really think that insulting other members of the forum makes you look any smarter or somehow better? it's pathetic! I just don't care.
All I know, the bell tolls for you too.
PS. Russia is far from neo-Soviet. Russia has almost the same political and economical model of oligarchic monopolistic capitalism as Ukraine has, imputed by the IMF after the break-up of the Soviet Union. The only difference is that in Ukraine the oligarchs have completely subdued the state to their private needs, while in Russia they haven't succeeded that goal completely due to Putin's so-called "dictatorship".

Funny slogans doesn't improve your argument. (Вытерто. Л.) Maybe, you suspect you are wrong, if my post bothers you?

PS. Russia is far from neo-Soviet. -> Seriously? LOL! There's Russians in Russia who have written to great extent on this. But, yes, go ahead and tell me your claim. It's amusing.

Russia is imposing it's neo-Soviet framework, Ukraine is not. Yes, Ukraine is probably moving towards a corrupt Western system but that doesn't make it 'neo-Soviet.' You know the difference between our arguments? You're a neo-Soviet apologist and critique the West. I criticize both.